Re: Events and places

Dear All,

I have had a similar problem. I am working on a prosopography that encodes
factoids on persons, places, and events. A factoid is a discrete piece of
information with a bibliographic reference. We collect these on a
source-by-source basis. This means that instead of all the information
about a single person existing in one place, it is spread across several
files, potentially many files. A robust system of URI/URLs allows us to
pull together and visualize the data. We found the need to nest
<listRelation> according to the guidelines both unnecessary and cumbersome
so we are using a customization that allows it to nest in a <div> element.
(Each of our factoids receives a separate <div> with at least one
bibliographic reference.)

I've included some examples. The first <div> contains a name variant for a
person and the second is an event that includes that same person. These
both come from one primary source text and are encoded in the same xml
document. The second contains a relationship for that same person from a
separate primary source text and is therefore encoded in a separate xml
document.


<div uri="http://syriaca.org/spear/119-452">
                <listPerson>
                    <person>
                        <persName ref="http://syriaca.org/person/51">
Severus </persName>
                    </person>
                </listPerson>
                <bibl type="primary">
                    <ptr target="http://syriaca.org/bibl/657"/>
                    <citedRange unit="part">87</citedRange>
                </bibl>
            </div>

<div uri="http://syriaca.org/spear/119-460">
                <listEvent>
                    <event>
                        <desc> In <choice>
                                <reg>
                                    <date notBefore="0518-10"
notAfter="0519-09" calendar="Gregorian">A. D. 499/500</date>
                                </reg>
                                <orig>
                                    <date when-custom="0830"
datingMethod="Seleucid">A. Gr.
                                        830</date>
                                </orig>
                            </choice>
                            <persName ref="http://syriaca.org/person/2268">
Justin </persName>
                            deposed <persName ref="
http://syriaca.org/person/51"> Severus
                            </persName> and <persName ref="
http://syriaca.org/person/44"> Philoxenos
                            </persName> for refusing to accept the Council
of
                                    <placeName ref="
http://syriaca.org/place/622"> Chalcedon
                                </placeName>
                            . </desc>
                        <ptr target="
http://syriaca.org/keyword/councilChalcedon
http://syriaca.org/keyword/deposition"/>
                    </event>
                </listEvent>
                <bibl type="primary">
                    <ptr target="http://syriaca.org/bibl/657"/>
                    <citedRange unit="part">87</citedRange>
                </bibl>
            </div>


<div uri="http://syriaca.org/spear/3004-41">
                <listRelation>
                    <relation ana="clerical" name="syriaca:Ordination"
active="http://syriaca.org/person/2562" passive="
http://syriaca.org/person/51"/>
                </listRelation>
                <bibl type="primary">
                    <ptr target="http://syriaca.org/bibl/666"/>
                    <citedRange unit="part">1.01</citedRange>
                    <citedRange unit="pp">7</citedRange>
                </bibl>
            </div>


The <listRelation> is connected to the person by including the URI/URL for
that person. It is unnecessary to have this element wrapped in a
<listPerson> element pertaining to one or both of the persons mentioned in
the relationship. I hope this proves helpful for the current discussion.

All best,
Dan




On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Jesper Zedlitz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >> The <listRelation> element is not allowed as child clement of <body>. I
> >> have already created an issue for that
> >> <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1552>
> >
> Interestingly, it is possible to put a <relation> element inside a
> <listPerson>.
>
> >> The marriage event #event1 is not connected to the participants. Is it
> >> possible to link persons and events?
> >
>
> > Or use <listPerson> as child of <desc> for a more database-like
> > representation.
> >
> Thank you for that hint. I can even specify the role a person had in the
> event. Now my <event> element looks like this:
>
>  <listEvent>
>     <event xml:id="event1" type="marriage"
>            when="1936-08-08" where="#frankfurtStNikolai">
>       <desc>
>         <listPerson>
>           <person role="groom" sameAs="#p1" />
>           <person role="bride" sameAs="#p2" />
>         </listPerson>
>       </desc>
>     </event>
>  </listEvent>
>
> Is there a place on the TEI wiki where these kind of snippets can be
> preserved for posterity?
>
> Jesper
>
> --
> Dr. Jesper Zedlitz
> AG Kommunikationssysteme
> Inst. f. Informatik, CAU Kiel
> +49 431 880 7517
>



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