Re: encoding bibliographical references to numbered entries

Thanks James et al. I should have noticed that they were only suggested values! 'entry' makes sense to me in this case although it would be interesting to hear what other people have done.


re. Elisa's suggested about <biblScope>: my impression was that <biblScope> and <citedRange> had rather different functions, the first describing the pages (or whatever) occupied by a whole cited work (e.g. chapter in a book), and the second describing the pages cited from that work in a given reference. For example:

A. N. Other, "Example book section", in Example Book, <biblScope>pp. 123-234</biblScope>, at <citedRange>pp. 125-6</citedRange>


Matthew


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From: James Cummings <[email protected]>
Sent: 13 December 2016 10:23
To: Martin de la Iglesia; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: encoding bibliographical references to numbered entries

Hi Martin, Matthew, et al.

Just because there is not the suggested value you want does not
mean that you cannot use other values! It just means that the TEI
has not suggested that value as one of the examples you might
want to use.

Indeed, @unit on both biblScope and citedRange is there because
those elements both claim membership of
the att.citing class.
http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-att.citing.html
As you'll see there, the datatype of @unit is teidata.enumerated.
Whenever I see that datatype in the attributes I'm recommending
people use I suggest that they constrain it to be a set list of
values.  See the note on
http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-teidata.enumerated.html
which suggests this.

So in Matthew's case in creating his ODD he might wish to suggest
a (fixed or 'semi' fixed) list of attribute values which includes
'number' as a value.  (If indeed 'number' is the right term for
this kind of thing rather than 'entry' or 'orderedEntry' or
whatever else might seem reasonable.)

However, I think we're miscommunicating. I read Matthew's
original email not as asking for an alternative to using @unit on
citedRange or biblScope but wanting a suggestion for an
alternative term to put in the unit attribute.

Matthew:  I'd say the unit is 'entry' myself.

-James


On 13/12/16 09:47, Martin de la Iglesia wrote:
> I'm afraid <biblScope> doesn't solve the problem: @unit is also
> available in <biblScope> and there is no suggested @unit value
> for the kind of number Matthew is looking for.
>
>
> Martin
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> Am 12.12.2016 um 15:16 schrieb Elisa:
>> Matthew-- I think you'll want <biblScope> for this. It's a
>> wonderfully versatile element, since you can use it for all
>> kinds of ranges. See
>> http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-biblScope.html
>>
>> Best,
>> Elisa
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>> Associate Professor of English
>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg
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>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 6:14 AM, MLH <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Is there a standard way of encoding bibliographical entries
>>> where (instead of a page) a numbered entry or range of
>>> numbered entries is cited?
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> <bibl><title>Bibliotheca Hagiographia Latina>, 5625-6</bibl>
>>>
>>> <citedRange> does not have "number" (or an equivalent) as an
>>> accepted value of @unit - is there an alternative?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>


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