Re: In manuscript copies, how to encode the date of origin of the original?

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:46 PM, B E Quessel <[email protected]> wrote:

> If this is the description of a  _copy_ of an older manuscript would it
> not be more logical to have two separate records - one for the original and
> one for the copy, each with their own date of origin plus appropriate
> pointers in the respective <filiation > elements?
>
Yes, we do have two separate records for the original manuscript and the
copy. But it is a requirement that in the TEI-encoded version of the
manuscript copy, there is a reference to the date when the original
manuscript was created. I was asking how to best represent the latter.

> The copy record would point to the antigraph, the record for the
> original would point to the apograph. I thought that what filiation is
> for. Or am I misunderstanding the problem here?
>
No, you understood perfectly well. Thanks for pointing out the <filiation>
element!


> Burkhard
>
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> *Sent:* 06 February 2017 11:46:58
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: In manuscript copies, how to encode the date of origin of
> the original?
>
> Dear Mathias,
>
> How about this:
>
> <history>
> <origin>
> <origDate>1589</origDate>
> <date type="original">...</date>
> </origin>
> </history>
>
> Best,
> Franz
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Mathias Müller:
>
> Dear all
>
> We are TEI-encoding medieval law manuscripts, making use of all the
> elements of the "msdescription" module. I have a question about how to
> encode dates related to those manuscripts.
>
> For original manuscripts, I have encoded the date as follows (showing only
> the relevant part of the header):
>
>          <sourceDesc>
>             <msDesc>
>                <msIdentifier>
>                   <repository>Sample Holdings</repository>
>                   <idno>ex12345</idno>
>                </msIdentifier>
>                <history>
>                   <origin>
>                      <origDate>1589</origDate>
>                   </origin>
>                </history>
>             </msDesc>
>          </sourceDesc>
>
> But for manuscripts that are *copies* of older manuscripts, we have the
> following requirement: we need to encode both the date of origin of the
> copy and the date of origin of the original that the copy refers to. I am
> not sure how to encode both in the same header.
>
> Hence my question:
>
> While encoding a copy of an original manuscript, how to properly represent
> both the date of creation of the copy and the original manuscript? Both
> should be present in our TEI documents, but clearly separated from each
> other.
>
> I am glad to give additional information if needed.
>
> Thanks in advance and kind regards
> Mathias
> —
>
> Mathias Müller
> AND-2-20
> Institute of Computational Linguistics
> University of Zurich
> Switzerland
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