Re: seg and interp
Roberto Rosselli Del Turco <[email protected]> Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:55:34 +0200
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Dear Piotr, I've been tempted to use <taxonomy> for a very similar purpose, but wouldn't that be a sort of "tag abuse"? Since from what I understand reading the relative section in the Guidelines this element should be used for *bibliographical* taxonomies only, it is not a general purpose classification tool. I would then suggest to use @ana with <seg>, as you do too, pointing to a number of <interp>s in an <interpGrp>. All best, R Il 28.04.2017 21:24 Piotr Bański ha scritto: > Dear Mike, > > It looks like your system assumes a rich taxonomy of objects the > textual cues to which you choose to identify in your corpus. I would > suggest that you first explore the possibilities that <taxonomy> gives > you, as it will free you of the need to parse your attributes later > on, but it will also force you (or help you) to keep your (so far > merely implied) taxonomy consistent throughout. > > http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy.html > > Below is a fragment that uses <seg> alone -- which you may like, > because it's simpler for the encoders. > > Remarks: > 1. the markup below presupposes several hierarchically organised > <taxonomy> elements in the header. > 2. I am not sure what you use @function for, so I just keep it as-is > 3. It is a good idea to index at least the added <seg> elements. The > indices I added to them have nearly random content. > 4. You don't need @prev on the last one, but it may be useful. It's up > to you and your tools. I assumed a rule whereby if there is no @ana > attribute, it means that the <seg> is a continuation, and @prev points > to the previous one in the chain. But YMMV. > 5. Sorry about the line breaks, you may want to paste this fragment > into your test TEI document and reformat. > > Hope this helps, > > Piotr > > <body> > <div> > <p>In the <seg xml:id="d-p3-s3" ana="#place.main">Country > of the Bhargas, on Mount > Śuśumāra in a fearsome forest of wild animals</seg> > with a <seg xml:id="d-p3-s4" > ana="#audience.Gen">great saṅgha of about 500 monks, > eminent śrāvaka-elders who > possessed clairvoyance</seg>.</p> > </div> > <div> > <p><seg xml:id="d-p-s43" function="modul" > ana="#past.life.Who">if you wonder whether the > brahmin boy Bhadraśuddha was then at that time > someone else, or you are of two > minds about it, or doubtful, do not see him so. Why? > Because the bodhisattva > mahāsattva Maitreya himself was then at that time > the brahmin boy > Bhadraśuddha</seg></p> > <p> > <seg xml:id="d-p-s44" function="modul" > type="#qualities.Buddha" next="#d-p-s45">The > Tathāgata was handsome and charismatic, controlled > in his faculties and in his > mind. He had attained excellence in control and calm > abiding, and superiority in > control and calm abiding. He guarded his faculties, > elephant-like in control of > his passions, and was radiant, unsullied, and clear > like a lake.</seg></p> > > <p><seg xml:id="d-p-s45" function="modul" > prev="#d-p-s44">His body was adorned with the > thirty-two marks of a great being, and with the > eighty minor marks, like the > blossoming flower of a royal sal tree, and towering > like Mount Meru, the king of > mountains. His face was as calm as the sphere of the > moon, and radiantly clear and > brilliant like the sphere of the sun. His body was > proportioned like a nyagrodha > tree, blazing with light and great > splendor.</seg></p> > </div> > </body> > > > > On 28/04/17 09:41, Mike Engle wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I'm involved in a project in which we're marking up a large body of >> literature and we want to mark various passages in the texts as >> significant, in essence labeling them as "this" or "that". We took a >> look through the TEI Guidelines and decided to use <seg> and <interp> >> to >> mark the various passages with different attributes to specifiy what >> type of passage it is. >> >> For example, with <interp>: >> >> In the <interptype="placeMain">Country of the Bhargas, on Mount >> Śuśumāra >> in a fearsome forest of wild animals</interp> with a <interp >> type="audienceGen">great saṅgha of about 500 monks, eminent >> śrāvaka-elders who possessed clairvoyance</interp>. >> >> >> And with <seg>: >> >> <segfunction="modul"type="pastLifeWho">if you wonder whether the >> brahmin boy >> Bhadraśuddha was then at that time someone >> else, >> or you are of two minds >> about it, or doubtful, do not see him so. Why? >> Because the bodhisattva >> mahāsattva Maitreya himself was then at that >> time the brahmin boy >> Bhadraśuddha</seg> >> >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1) Since this is going to be a very long term and labor extensive >> project, I wanted to check and see if the community in general felt >> this >> was a reasonable way to mark these passages and also if there are any >> suggestions for other ways to do this which might work better. Can >> anyone suggest any other elements that might be useful for this kind >> of >> thing? >> >> 2) We have a problem of going across elements (breaking the nesting >> so >> to speak). For instance, a passage might start in the middle of one >> paragraph and finish halfway through another paragraph, and when we >> mark >> it the tag begins in one paragraph and closes in the next. The schema >> doesn't like this one bit, and I'm wondering what is the best way to >> handle this. For example: >> >> >> <p><seg function="modul" type="qualitiesBuddha">The Tathāgata was >> handsome and charismatic, >> controlled in his faculties and in his mind. >> He >> had attained excellence in >> control and calm abiding, and superiority in >> control and calm abiding. He >> guarded his faculties, elephant-like in >> control >> of his passions, and >> was radiant, unsullied, and clear like a >> lake.</p> >> >> <p>His body was adorned with the >> thirty-two marks of a great being, and with >> the >> eighty minor marks, like the >> blossoming flower of a royal sal tree, and >> towering like Mount Meru, the >> king of mountains. His face was as calm as the >> sphere of the moon, and >> radiantly clear and brilliant like the sphere >> of >> the sun. His body was proportioned like a >> nyagrodha tree, blazing with light >> and great splendor.</seg></p> >> >> >> Any help is greatly appreciate. Forgive the formatting >> >> Mike >> >> >> >>