Re: The illusion of simplicity and low cost in data design and computing
Dimitre Novatchev <[email protected]>
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> "Open" being able to offer a choices of likely tools seems more useful > than identifying a single application, to me at least. > > liam Identifying the right set of applications (toolset) to have, depends on the level of abstraction we want to work at. I think that neither too-low level of abstraction (the swiss-army knife) or extremely-high level of abstraction (flying in a plane) are convenient in most typical cases. I would personally prefer a car, or even better, a bike. Thanks, Dimitre On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Liam R. E. Quin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 22:05 +0100, Michael Kay wrote: > > > > Eric Raymond's quote would be valid if the operating system > > constrained all files to be XML, say. But it's not valid for an > > operating system that can support any file format, but can also > > reliably tell the application that it's reading an XML file rather > > than a JSON file (or more precisely, one that can identity the > > application that wrote the file and tell you what claims that > > application made about the file format). > > > > MacOS (the pre-Unix OS) could do this (to some extent). It was a pain, > and made the system massively less flexible than Unix. For example, if > i make an SVG file in Inkscape (to use today's application names), i > might then want to look at it in Inkview or in a Web browser, and i > might want to edit it in Oxygen XML Editor. > > Putting the applications before the documents is the wrong way round. > > However, i do agree that file extensions suck, and the Unix "file" > command (Ian Darwin of SoftQuad wrote the public domain version of > that) is incredibly useful but limited and not 100% reliable. Of > course, nothing is 100% reliable except the statement that noting is > 100% reliable... > > "Open" being able to offer a choices of likely tools seems more useful > than identifying a single application, to me at least. > > liam > > -- > Liam Quin, https://www.delightfulcomputing.com/ > Available for XML/Document/Information Architecture/XSLT/ > XSL/XQuery/Web/Text Processing/A11Y training, work & consulting. > Barefoot Web-slave, antique illustrations: http://www.fromoldbooks.org > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: [email protected] > subscribe: [email protected] > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > > -- Cheers, Dimitre Novatchev --------------------------------------- Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence. --------------------------------------- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk ------------------------------------- Never fight an inanimate object ------------------------------------- To avoid situations in which you might make mistakes may be the biggest mistake of all ------------------------------------ Quality means doing it right when no one is looking. ------------------------------------- You've achieved success in your field when you don't know whether what you're doing is work or play ------------------------------------- To achieve the impossible dream, try going to sleep. ------------------------------------- Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. ------------------------------------- Typing monkeys will write all Shakespeare's works in 200yrs.Will they write all patents, too? :) ------------------------------------- Sanity is madness put to good use. ------------------------------------- I finally figured out the only reason to be alive is to enjoy it.