Re: Please stop writing specifications that cannot be parsed/processed by software
Tim Bray <[email protected]> Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:05:58 -0700
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I wrote the first complete and AFAIK fully conforming XML parser, Lark, in Nov/Dec 1996 (Yeah, XML wasn’t quite finished yet) and it took several weeks, which annoyed me because I really had thought we’d managed to narrow it down enough to make it a one-week task. On Jun 5, 2023 at 9:53:38 AM, Norman Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > On 5 Jun 2023, at 17:26, Debbie Lapeyre wrote: > > And my version of the Grad-student writes a parser story (ain't time and > distance wonderful) was that the XML spec had promised > > that a 'reasonably competent graduate student' could write an XML parser > in 3 days. And, near the end fo the spec process, a very bright grad > student complained bitterly (and in jest) that > > he COULDS NOT write one in 3 days, it had taken nearly 5. > > > My version of the story starts from a context where I wanted to take stuff > from a parse of an XML document, but throw most of the parse away. I > recall I did consider starting on doing this with sed, but after I had > punched myself in the face for half-an-hour decided that a cut-down scanner > would be smarter and educational. Three days later, I realised I'd written > a large fraction of an XML parser by accident -- and the whitespace rules > and, yes, unicode, were next on the list -- but that it would be much less > fun and much more sensible to go with what should have been plan-0 and use > a library instead. > > The lessons being that yes, +1, an XML parser is not a massive challenge > even for someone without a lot of parser experience, that whitespace is a > problem, and (the thing I might be adding to this thread) that there isn't > a cut-down 'this'll do' version of such a parser which is useful. That's a > sort of minimalism. > > Best wishes, > > Norman > > > -- > Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk > SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: [email protected] > subscribe: [email protected] > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > >