Re: HTMX ? (anyone?)

Joern Turner <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:13:20 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.exist
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Hi Joe, Hank,

of course you can use it with Fore - HOWEVER that makes no sense at all as
Fore can do much more than HTMX and why having 2 tools when you just need
one - it's like using 2 hammers for a single nail.

I'm not a fan of HTMX - and i'm not alone with my dislike and criticism.
Just look around e.g. on Medium... Sprinkling all these 'hx-' attributes on
HTML and ignoring that there's a standard for custom attributes feels like
the 90s. On top of that they even know and allow it making it even worse ->
data-hx-get. And if going declarative you should go the full way.


Besides that i think that it lacks a real data-binding, a solid concept for
calculations, their validation example is more than poor etc. etc. There
are some nice ideas but i don't understand the hype. Back in the days
people invented all kinds of stuff like this - nowadays there's a standard
for extending HTML and that's called Web Components.

Sorry if that sounds rather harsh but IMO they are not doing the idea of
declarativeness a favor cause it's just done poorly.

Joern


On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 7:12 PM Joe Wicentowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Hank,
>
> I recently came across HTMX too and am also curious to hear if anyone has
> been using it. In particular, I wonder about its possible integration with
> Fore (cc/ Joern).
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 1:01 PM Hank Ratzesberger via Exist-open <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Exist (ential List)
>>
>> I've not been reading very closely, so sorry if I've missed this. I've
>> been in the DevOps space for the last five years, but looking at web
>> applications again.
>>
>> I don't recall if eXist has a HATEOS step/pipeline/transform but it seems
>> that's all that would be necessary to easily support htmx browser side
>> applications. These applications minimize JavaScript to only extending some
>> elements with attributes hx-get, hx-post, etc., that expect html responses,
>> and replace the content of the element or its parent.
>>
>> Anyone experimenting with this?
>>
>> https://htmx.org/
>>
>> Best,
>> Hank
>>
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