RE: Agenda, 1 October 2015 SVG WG telcon

"'David Dailey' [email protected] [svg-developers]" <[email protected]> Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:08:08 -0400
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From: Erik Dahlstr=C3=B6m [mailto:erik@dahlstr=C3=B6m.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:47 PM
To: www-svg
Subject: Agenda, 1 October 2015 SVG WG telcon

Please find the agenda for this week=E2=80=99s telcon below.

Time:=20=20
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3D10&day=3D1&yea=
r=3D2015&hour=3D20&min=3D30&sec=3D0&p1=3D0
Phone: +1-617-324-0000 (access code: 649 040 824) IRC for minutes/discussio=
n: #svg on irc.w3.org, port 6665 Agenda requests: http://www.w3.org/Graphic=
s/SVG/WG/wiki/Agenda
WebEx logistics: https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/WebEx

Agenda:

* Path stroking for paths that end with tight curves (Tav)
   http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=3D1257

* Declarative animation and conformance
   https://github.com/w3c/svgwg/issues/23

* SVG 2 chapter progress
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I see from discussion following the meeting that one of the CSS agenda item=
s (css-writing-modes) was indeed addressed.

I think the majority of authors who have developed content that is consiste=
nt with SVG1.1 who fear that our industrial, scholarly and artistic work is=
 about to be deprecated with no workable functionality to replace it, are m=
ore concerned perhaps, with the status of https://github.com/w3c/svgwg/issu=
es/23 in particular the clarification of what standards compliance means vi=
s a vis declarative animation, relationships to existing content, the parts=
 of SVG DOM (as with animVal vs baseVal) and methods to pass events back an=
d forth between declarative and scripted methods (onend, onbegin, beginElem=
ent(), etc.).

When one writer on the github discussion writes

"If there is / will be consensus in the SVG WG that both script animation a=
nd declarative animation (incl SVG's animation elements) should be required=
 for dynamic SVG viewers (I think both should be required for eg browsers),=
 then the wording (eg in the SVG2 spec) should be updated to unambiguously =
state that.

Many developers want/need SVG SMIL / SVG's animation elements. If there is =
/ will be consensus in the SVG WG that both script animation and declarativ=
e animation (incl SVG's animation elements) should be required for dynamic =
SVG viewers (I think both should be required for eg browsers), then the wor=
ding (eg in the SVG2 spec) should be updated to unambiguously state that.

Many developers want/need SVG SMIL / SVG's animation elements."

I think many who work in at least a dozen different sectors of world econom=
y would concur. Human communication is far too large an issue to be left in=
 the hands of a few narrow economic interests.=20

Was that issue discussed? Was consensus found?

Regards
David





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