Re: Output a new line after the XML declaration using indent="yes"

Hi Dave,

thanks for your response...

> > 
> > 2. Having a newline after XML-declaration as well
> > as at the end of the file is a common need that
> > JAXP users have. I can NOT accept your point
> > saying that this is generally NOT supported because
> > it could cause some trouble you may have implementing this.
> I find the tone of your post to be offensive.  No one on this list owes 
> you anything in particular, and I suggest you be more polite in future 
> posts.

Sorry for that. Of course nobody owes me anything.
I just ran into this problem and read this thread.
This gave me the impression that a user demand
-that is obvious to me- is not really seen here (I am
talking about my impression). 
Besides English is not my native language so I do
not know if there is something very offensive in my words.
I just wanted to make my personal position very clear.
Besides I tended to always write "NOT" capitalized,
because I often read over this word and get the wrong 
message. A friend explained me that this is no good style
here because it overemphasizes what I wanted to say...

> > This has a large impact after everybody has to eat this
> > when just using a plain JDK. It is a lot worse if people
> > start adding newlines manually to OutputStream,
> > because this will cause real trouble with encodings, especially
> > if the encoding is NOT 8-bit-wise (e.g. UTF-16) and a newlines
> > get broken because hackers of such workaround do NOT think
> > of such problems.
> Any XML parser that requires a newline between the XML declaration and 
> the root element, or after the root element, is non-conforming and 
> should be fixed.

Absolutely true. But XML is also read by humans.
I wrote an open-source tool (maven-plugin) that modifies 
XML that can be handwritten. Users tell me that there is a
bug in my product because newlines get lost.
I think they are right but my problem is that
I see the main problem in xalan-j.

> > 
> > Please provide a solution here.
> You can always post-process the document and 
> add the new line characters.

Of course I can do that. I already wrote about this option
before and the pitfalls one can run into with encodings, etc.
I was choosing Xalan-J because I used JAXP
and did not want to add thirdparty libs (like XOM, JDOM or 
Dom4j). But if I need such workaround I'd better use one
of those external libs instead.

Besides Xalan-J also stips a newline between XML-Comments
and the root-tag. I can not simply workaround this problem without
reimplementing an XML-Writer or just using an other product.

> Dave

Regards
  Jörg


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