Re: Slightly OT: MARC

Patrick Durusau <patrick-Q/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.xtm.general
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Lars,

On 7/19/2010 7:28 PM, Lars Heuer wrote:

<snip>
> Well, one question remains: Where are the subjects? Where are the
> global identifiers? If there are no global identifiers, all attempts
> to create a topic map from MARC are pretty useless. If neither ISBNs
> nor any other global identifier are given, who could we assume that we
> talk about the same subject?
>
>    
Shocking answer: There are *no* global identifiers. (In my opinion there 
never will be. People are just too imperfect for a variety of reasons to 
make that work.)

What we can make work is using ISBNs, for example, for a rough cut on 
merging for the same subject, perhaps with some minimal check of other 
properties, author for example, and rely on human users to say when we 
got it wrong despite all our care.

After all, when *one* user corrects it, then that correction percolates 
forward to benefit the next user.

That is to say that unlike search engines that "do over" every search, a 
topic map can accumulate the insights of its users and grow more 
accurate over time.

Our judgments about whether we are talking about the same subject is 
provisional. If the data is very, very clean (highly unusual) then some 
criteria will get us pretty close. If the data is less clean, then we 
will be farther away. But if we are using a topic map, then corrections 
are going to benefit other users down the line.

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Whether we should create a topic map from MARC data, with or without the 
MARC metadata as first class subjects should not depend upon a mythic 
translation into a perfect topic map. Mappings are always going to have 
a certain degree of inaccuracy and so what we need to develop for topic 
maps is a well recognized notion of "correction" by users.

Hope you are having a great evening!

Patrick




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