Re: Banging the identity drum again, this time REST-style

Are Gulbrandsen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.xtm.general
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Hi again Murray

Since being a little critical to your remark in my last email, I should hurry to say that the spec that was the main point in your email makes sense. It's a pity it didn't happen.

- What happened?


Best Regards,
Are D. Gulbrandsen
The XML-group,
Center for Information Technology Services
University of Oslo


On 24. nov. 2010, at 02.21, Murray Altheim wrote:

> Back in 2002 I cowrote a specification* that I believe provided
> the necessary functionality, and did so without any major change
> to HTML/XHTML, nor did it include non-HTML content in web pages:
> 
>    Augmented Metadata in XHTML
>    Neocortext.Net Working Draft 10 May 2002
>    Murray Altheim, Sean Palmer
>    http://www.altheim.com/specs/meta/NOTE-xhtml-augmeta.html
>    http://tinyurl.com/augmeta
> 
> ...though I hold out little hope that at this point anyone would
> do something so simple. It's a shame HTML 5 doesn't help in this
> regard.
> 
> While there is little to no evidence to suggest it, some people
> continue to feel that inserting complicated XML markup into web
> pages is a more likely bet, so I leave them to that exercise. The
> one area that we can continue to productively develop is the
> groundwork of PSIs/URLs behind the implementation(s) in markup,
> how those PSIs are created, what they mean (i.e., both logically
> and epistemologically), how they interrelate, how they can be
> surfaced as web services, etc.  There's still plenty of room for
> interesting and valuable work.
> 
> One of the things missing in a lot of communities is an open
> source reference implementation of the primary specifications.
> We almost had that with tm4j and perhaps are approaching that
> with Ontopia (though that is a commercial product). Building
> a reference implementation around the Augmented Metadata spec
> (or something similar) would be trivial, indeed, would hardly
> be more than an hour's work. The bigger question is: would
> anyone use it? What would it take for the network effect to
> take hold?
> 
> Murray
> 
> * I would certainly rewrite that 2002 document now, as the prose
> has problems, but the basic implementation in markup I still feel
> is sound (and simple).
> ...........................................................................
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