Re: Banging the identity drum again, this time REST-style

On 26/11/10 13:12, Lars Heuer wrote:
> Hi Murray,
>
> [...]
>> I'm by no means being critical of Ontopia for having released
>> their product into open source, indeed, it's probably the most
>> significant boon to the Topic Maps community to have happened
>> in years and I'm hoping in an upcoming project to be able to
>> actively use the software. So please don't take that remark as
>
> I tend to disagree. Ontopia gained some attention one year ago and the
> downloads one year ago and the mentioned contributors may give that
> impression but making Ontopia's sources available provided almost
> nothing for the TM community; the event gained temporarily attention
> because Ontopia was (and maybe still is) a player, but Ontopia is
> still driven by the same people. Ontopia has more contributors
> (theoretically) but Ontopia is still maintained by LMG and Grove. Some
> developers may have contributed something useful, but you may have a
> look at the recent development to get a picture of the usefulness of
> the new contributors.

Hi Lars,

Your opinion is noted. That said, if things work out as I'm planning
for the next six months, the Ontopia engine will play an important
role as a component in a complex SGML/XML document management system
being used as a core component in a government agency.

While you may not think it useful I will find it of great use, as I'm
sure will others. In many cases we simply will be unable to provide
code or even details of what we've done (as is often the case with
proprietary work).

> I don't deny that making Ontopia's sources available under the Apache
> License is a Good Thing but I tend to disagree with the interpretation
> of any significance.

You've amply demonstrated your role in this group as the sourpuss,
and likewise I'm sure that a few around here will find it funny that
I'm now the pollyanna. I suppose I'm just glad our community hasn't
hired you to do our marketing.

I do agree with Patrick though: we've reached the Hitler moment in
this conversation.

Murray

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