Re: Newcomb number news

Michel Biezunski <mb-Zo64W7twoUFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.xtm.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tuesday 07 December 2010 05:56:47 Robert Cerny wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> Am 07.12.2010 um 11:08 schrieb Steve Pepper:
> 
> > * Robert Cerny
> > |
> > | There is a new table showing the newcomb numbers:
> > | http://www.topincs.com/newcombnumber/.table?id=423
> >
> > I'm not yet convinced that I want to be part of this exercise.
> >
> > Quite apart from anything else, Michel Biezunski is not on the list.
> >
> > He probably introduced more people to Topic Maps than almost anyone  
> > else, and
> > without his persistence in the late '90s, Topic Maps would have  
> > died in the cradle.
> >
> > Furthermore, the criteria for having introduced someone to Topic  
> > Maps are very
> > unclear. At the very least, please add a Comment occurrence to the  
> > topic type
> > Person, so that we can be a little more precise in how we record  
> > our history.
> 
> Once you access the form field, you will get an explanation to the  
> left. Currently it reads:
> 
> "The person that sold you the idea of Topic Maps through conversation  
> or writing. May be more than one."
> 
> If you have a better wording, let me know. If you need more precision  
> we need a more elaborate TMCL schema to record information. The idea  
> of this one is to keep it simple. The schema was modeled in Topincs  
> in an Open-Space-Session of TMRA 2010. Not much time.
> 
> > | We could compute a lot of numbers, if we would know:
> > |
> > | a. Who introduced Steve Pepper to Topic Maps?
> > | <http://www.topincs.com/newcombnumber/.form?tt=id:281&i=300>
> >
> > Get Michel onto the list, give me the occurrence type I ask for,  
> > and all shall be
> > revealed :)
> 
> Good. Michel is in there and you are "introduced by" him. So now we  
> need to know who introduced Topic Maps to Michel Biezunski. Was it  
> Steve Newcomb? Or was it the other way round? Or should it rather be  
> called the Newcomb-Biezunnski-Number?

Topic Maps came from a work done inside a group called the
Davenport Group led by O'Reilly that eventually produced both
the Docbook DTD and Topic Maps. Steve was the lead in the subgroup
(called CApH -- Conventions for the Application of Hytime) and
I became a co-editor. When, after 3 years of brainstorming, Steve
and I invented the "topic map concept", I was the one who decided
to make it an ISO standard. Steve was not interested at that time,
so I started the work, and he accepted to re-join that group a couple
of years later.

Michel

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