Re: TMRM: isa/sub - irreflexive relation vs. reflexive relation

Robert Barta <[email protected]> Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:27:43 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.xtm.general
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 09:42:42AM -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> I would have to ask Robert Barta to be sure but I suspect that it was  
> required for his path language.

I would not think so. The path language, and consequently the TMQL would
operate on any meaning one gives isa and sub.

> Personally over the years I have come to think that sub and isa should  
> be defined by the legends where they appear. (Personal opinion, not what  
> the TMRM says.)

Well, there is so little agreement in this world. Even the tiniest
common denominator cannot be found....

\rho


> On 10/05/2011 05:23 AM, Simon Grant wrote:
>> On 5 October 2011 10:05, Lars Heuer <[email protected]  
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     [...]
>>
>>     I understand why the "sub" relation is reflexive (implicitly since
>>     every proxy is a subclass of itself by definition), but I wonder why
>>     stating "x isa x" is explicitly forbidden.
>>
>>     What's the rationale behind this design decision?
>>
>>
>> Maybe it helps avoid Russell's Paradox? [1] or something similar? Just  
>> a guess...
>>
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_paradox  
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_paradox>
>>
>> Simon
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