Re: Business Applications

Patrick Durusau <patrick-Q/[email protected]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:36:52 -0400
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Sebastian,

Applaud your enthusiasm but suggest you start with less than an attempt 
at a universal semantic solution.

There isn't any shame in replacing a traditional database with a triple 
store, if that solves a particular problem.

As far as application examples, have you looked at http://semanticweb.com?

Hope you are having a great weekend!

Patrick



On 08/18/2012 10:30 PM, Sebastian S. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been quite enthusiastic for a while about ontologies and related 
> tools. I've attempted to develop some semantic/knowledge enabled 
> applications. I'd really like to see some examples somewhere of how 
> such an application would look like. It seemed to me at first that 
> semantics would be a big revolution in application development.
>
> The business needs I'm trying to address and some features are drafted 
> in a document at http://cognescent.googlecode.com/files/Brochure.pdf. 
> In some parts I try detail some thoughts regarding how I think an 
> implementation could be technically implemented. Are there any 
> patterns or frameworks where one can learn how to do such application 
> as one would usually do with a n-tier J2EE application, for example?
>
> I always find myself like trying to reinvent the wheel and, perhaps 
> because I'm missing something, I end up just not willing to have just 
> a triple store replacing a traditional database and currently I cannot 
> figure out the patterns or layers that could comprise a real semantic 
> application beyond that. Are there any examples? Are the model, view, 
> controller concepts still valid? How a semantic app UI should look like.
>
> Best regards,
> Sebastian.
>
>
>
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    Sebastian,<br>
    <br>
    Applaud your enthusiasm but suggest you start with less than an
    attempt at a universal semantic solution.<br>
    <br>
    There isn't any shame in replacing a traditional database with a
    triple store, if that solves a particular problem. <br>
    <br>
    As far as application examples, have you looked at
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semanticweb.com">http://semanticweb.com</a>?<br>
    <br>
    Hope you are having a great weekend!<br>
    <br>
    Patrick<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 08/18/2012 10:30 PM, Sebastian S. wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAFnmbpW7CqKP4DywiHrQ43=rv8RwwtyhXpeYLSQ4OAZLidYKEQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org"
      type="cite">Hello,<br>
      <br>
      I've been quite enthusiastic for a while about ontologies and
      related tools. I've attempted to develop some semantic/knowledge
      enabled applications. I'd really like to see some examples
      somewhere of how such an application would look like. It seemed to
      me at first that semantics would be a big revolution in
      application development.<br>
      <br>
      The business needs I'm trying to address and some features are
      drafted in a document at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://cognescent.googlecode.com/files/Brochure.pdf">http://cognescent.googlecode.com/files/Brochure.pdf</a>.
      In some parts I try detail some thoughts regarding how I think an
      implementation could be technically implemented. Are there any
      patterns or frameworks where one can learn how to do such
      application as one would usually do with a n-tier J2EE
      application, for example?<br>
      <br>
      I always find myself like trying to reinvent the wheel and,
      perhaps because I'm missing something, I end up just not willing
      to have just a triple store replacing a traditional database and
      currently I cannot figure out the patterns or layers that could
      comprise a real semantic application beyond that. Are there any
      examples? Are the model, view, controller concepts still valid?
      How a semantic app UI should look like.<br>
      <br>
      Best regards,<br>
      Sebastian.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
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Patrick Durusau
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Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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