Re: Win10 and Linux
Ivan Vučica <[email protected]>
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Windows is the BIOS to my Steam. Also, the touchscreen UI is nice for those times when I want to use a large touchscreen. Now, I also spotted a lot of mentions of MBR in this thread. If you're using MBR-style partition table and bootloader, and you're using multiple OSes, and you're upgrading Windows, you will *by default* have a bad time. Be prepared to play with reinstalling grub off of a live CD (or an equivalent exercise). On the other hand, UEFI and GPT bring a lot of goodness, including OSes that less often run over each others' bootloaders. I'm also pleased with being able to use plenty of partitions without resorting to the extended-partition hack. If you are doing a migration to Windows 10 and have a motherboard that does UEFI, consider whether you can suffer a reinstall of all OSes (Linux is almost trivial to back up and restore fully). For multibooters that like to fiddle with many OSes, it's a much more pleasant environment. :-) A switch to Windows 10 doesn't really concern me a lot as far as data loss, nor am I concerned about breaking GRUB and Clover. My actual concerns: is the UI less useful with touch? Are there stability issues with games (including older games)? Does the OS take significantly more space? Is it a downgrade or an upgrade? I guess I'll find out soon :-) On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Anders Holm <[email protected]> wrote: > Not really. Couldn't be less interested, to be honest. Other than knowing > how it will mess up other OS' on the same host, I couldn't really care > less. It's more Duplo to the people, really. > > "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I > thought as a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things. > What? It's Corinthians one, chapter thirteen verse eleven." > > -- Cereal Killer > > //anders > > > On 07/08/2015 11:29, rob mathews wrote: > > I wanna take look at windows 10 - not at the cost of any linux > partitions, obviously, but aren't we all curious? > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> How about installing it into a VM eg VirtualBox. >> Might do the job. >> Francis >> >> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 11:18:57 AM UTC, Brian Carey wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> I had similar issues with dual booting Windows. >>> Don't really see myself using it that much so not really that interested >>> in devoting a partition to it anymore. >>> >>> I have been looking into creating a persistent Windows 10 USB just to >>> have it there to play with. >>> Any thoughts? Would it be usable? Worth the effort? >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Conor Daly < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If you had a record of your linux partitions you could try to re-make >>>> them. They'll quite likely have all of the data there but you'd have to >>>> make sure you got the partition boundaries exactly right. >>>> >>>> Conor >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 10:59:21PM +0100 or so it is rumoured >>>> hereabouts, >>>> Aaron Hastings thought: >>>> > Yes. It wiped both of my Linux partitions. Gone. Well, >>>> "unallocated", but >>>> > not even worth attempting a recovery. This was the straight >>>> Windows 7 -> >>>> > Windows 10 in-place upgrade. >>>> > >>>> > Couldn't believe it. I mean, I expected the MBR to be overwritten >>>> with the >>>> > Windows bootloader. That's an easy fix; just boot into a Live USB >>>> and run >>>> > `grub-install /dev/sda` and you're laughing. Nope, completely >>>> wiped. I saw >>>> > a few other reports on Reddit of the same thing, so it seems I >>>> wasn't just >>>> > unlucky. >>>> > >>>> > The funniest part? It didn't even install its bootloader, so I >>>> couldn't >>>> > boot into anything. Ridiculous. >>>> > >>>> > Aaron >>>> > >>>> > On 31/07/2015 01:03, Bacon Zombie wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I installed the preview on an extra partition. >>>> > >>>> > Already had xubuntu and Win7 already installed. >>>> > >>>> > Now when I choose Windows from Grub I get the option for Win7 or >>>> X. >>>> > >>>> > On Jul 30, 2015 5:45 PM, "Anders Holm" <[1][email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > M$ Win has historically always wanted to own the MBR, so I'd >>>> expect it >>>> > to still do that. Keep yer USB recovery handy ... and possibly >>>> save >>>> > out a copy of MBR (etc.) before upgrading??? >>>> > >>>> > //anders >>>> > >>>> > On 30/07/2015 16:40, Gerard Cunningham wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Anyone had any experience of upgrading to Win10 on a dual >>>> boot >>>> > machine yet? Curious to know if I should brace myself for >>>> full linux >>>> > reinstall, whether win10 affects grub/partitions etc >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Irish Linux Users Group >>>> > --- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> > Groups "ILUG" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>> from it, >>>> > send an email to [2][email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [3][email protected]. >>>> > Visit this group at >>>> > [4]http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> > [5] >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/CACcBZUKVZQAqC4hq1DKyP0gT%2BiAHBWmQzdmWPMSLwZxVgTYd9w%40mail.gmail.com >>>> . >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Irish Linux Users Group >>>> > --- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> > Groups "ILUG" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>> it, send >>>> > an email to [6][email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [7][email protected]. >>>> > Visit this group at >>>> > [8]http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> > [9] >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/55BA4698.9080103%40gmail.com >>>> . >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Irish Linux Users Group >>>> > --- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> > Groups "ILUG" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>> it, send >>>> > an email to [10][email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [11][email protected]. >>>> > Visit this group at [12] >>>> http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> > [13] >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/CAPz7E53EfGOG_8RwGTsuaZ4-_1BufS6wXdkVeaObaBbU%3DBp-qw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> . >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Irish Linux Users Group >>>> > --- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "ILUG" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > email to [14][email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [15][email protected]. >>>> > Visit this group at [16] >>>> http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> > [17] >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/55C3D8B9.108%40aaronhastings.me >>>> . >>>> > >>>> > References >>>> > >>>> > Visible links >>>> > 1. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 2. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 3. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 4. http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/ >>>> > 5. >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/CACcBZUKVZQAqC4hq1DKyP0gT%2BiAHBWmQzdmWPMSLwZxVgTYd9w%40mail.gmail.com >>>> > 6. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 7. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 8. http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/ >>>> > 9. >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/55BA4698.9080103%40gmail.com >>>> > 10. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 11. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 12. http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/ >>>> > 13. >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/CAPz7E53EfGOG_8RwGTsuaZ4-_1BufS6wXdkVeaObaBbU%3DBp-qw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> > 14. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 15. mailto:[email protected] >>>> > 16. http://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/group/ilug/ >>>> > 17. >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/linux.ie/d/msgid/ilug/55C3D8B9.108%40aaronhastings.me?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Conor Daly <[email protected]> >>>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >>>> Version: 3.1 >>>> GCS/G/S/O d+(-) s:+ a+ C++(+) UL++++ US++ P>++ L+++>++++ E--- W++ !N >>>> PS+ PE Y+ PGP? 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