Re: Donating to Camara

Donal Hunt <[email protected]> Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:38:51 +0000
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It probably comes down to liability. Some background is available here:
https://itak.iaitam.org/the-data-protection-indemnity-gap-serious-indemnity=
-exposure-haunts-itam-businesses/

Camara's challenge is probably such that they don't want to increase their
insurance, processing, auditing costs such that they have to increase the
charges to either donor companies or recipients. In addition, they probably
want to avoid the costs of defending any legal action against them (most
Irish charities are not in a financial position to do so).

Personally, I would tackle the problem head on and figure out how to change
the business processes in a way that is financially viable (it's all about
process, controls and auditabiity). Perhaps that what has happened and it's
just not viable (most ITAD companies charge for pickups because of this).

Donal

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 18:13 P=C3=B3l Ua Lao=C3=ADnech=C3=A1in, <linehanp@tcd=
.ie> wrote:

> > The office companies sending them the bulk of the hardware want to see
> safe certified end of life.. they dont want disks back either as they sti=
ll
> have the problem
>
>
> Wouldn't a letter stating "We have applied the DBAN programme -
> Algorithm XYZ to machine ABC with HDD/SSD serial no. 12345" not be
> sufficient".
>
> I remember when I was there once, they had an area separated by a
> physical barrier and marked (paraphrasing) "no machine to. leave this
> area without DBAN being applied".
>
> What level of assurance do people want? Is there a State body which
> certifies organisations?
>
> P=C3=B3l...
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<div dir=3D"auto">It probably comes down to liability. Some background is a=
vailable here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://itak.iaitam.org/the-data-protection-=
indemnity-gap-serious-indemnity-exposure-haunts-itam-businesses/">https://i=
tak.iaitam.org/the-data-protection-indemnity-gap-serious-indemnity-exposure=
-haunts-itam-businesses/</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">C=
amara&#39;s challenge is probably such that they don&#39;t want to increase=
 their insurance, processing, auditing costs such that they have to increas=
e the charges to either donor companies or recipients. In addition, they pr=
obably want to avoid the costs of defending any legal action against them (=
most Irish charities are not in a financial position to do so).</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Personally, I would tackle the prob=
lem head on and figure out how to change the business processes in a way th=
at is financially viable (it&#39;s all about process, controls and auditabi=
ity). Perhaps that what has happened and it&#39;s just not viable (most ITA=
D companies charge for pickups because of this).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">Donal</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, 18:13 P=C3=B3l Ua =
Lao=C3=ADnech=C3=A1in, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">linehanp@tcd.=
ie</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; The office c=
ompanies sending them the bulk of the hardware want to see safe certified e=
nd of life.. they dont want disks back either as they still have the proble=
m<br>
<br>
<br>
Wouldn&#39;t a letter stating &quot;We have applied the DBAN programme -<br=
>
Algorithm XYZ to machine ABC with HDD/SSD serial no. 12345&quot; not be<br>
sufficient&quot;.<br>
<br>
I remember when I was there once, they had an area separated by a<br>
physical barrier and marked (paraphrasing) &quot;no machine to. leave this<=
br>
area without DBAN being applied&quot;.<br>
<br>
What level of assurance do people want? Is there a State body which<br>
certifies organisations?<br>
<br>
P=C3=B3l...<br>
<br>
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