Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 182, Issue 17

I see multiple Kingdel Fanless Mini-desktop computers on Amazon,
usually with Windows 10. Have you tried looking at the Kingdel site to
see if they provide drivers to use with the device on Linux? Possibly
Kingdel got creative with the hardware they use to run the serial
ports and generic Linux doesn't recognize the hardware? Just a guess.
I'd expect Linux to recognize anything that was remotely normal
hardware.

Doug.



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> I have a little kingdel box that has 5 actual, 9 pin serial ports. I am
> working with arduino and need my active usb port to show up as a com port,
> but it doesn't.
>
> ls /dev/tty* does not list any usb devices. Is there a way to make the usb
> port a com port in this case?
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>>
>> I have a little kingdel box that has 5 actual, 9 pin serial ports. I am
>> working with arduino and need my active usb port to show up as a com port,
>> but it doesn't.
>>
>
> Not particularly clear on what this means, where the USB is, etc. But, if
> you
> are going USB-serial with an FTDi based chip (on the cable), Linux will see
> it immediately as a "COM port" and setup a /dev/ttySx for it. (The device
> permissions will be as the distro decides, etc.)
>
>> ls /dev/tty* does not list any usb devices. Is there a way to make the usb
>> port a com port in this case?
>>
>
> USB ports cannot just act as COM ports. They need the kernel to treat
> whatever is attached to that USB port as a device with an associated driver.
> If you plug a USB device to a running Linux kernel it will find it, and if
> it is a healthy one it should show up  with 'lsusb', like this:
>
> iznogoud% lsusb
> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0328 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 413c:2011 Dell Computer Corp. Multimedia Pro Keyboard
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:1005 Dell Computer Corp. Multimedia Pro Keyboard
> Hub
> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0424:4060 Standard Microsystems Corp. Ultra Fast
> Media Reader
> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0424:2640 Standard Microsystems Corp. USB 2.0 Hub
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:2514 Standard Microsystems Corp. USB 2.0 Hub
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0461:4d51 Primax Electronics, Ltd 0Y357C PMX-MMOCZUL
> (B) [Dell Laser Mouse]
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> iznogoud%
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> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:48:08 -0600 (CST)
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected], tclug-list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] usb com ports
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> On my laptop, if I connect a USB cable to an arduino board, it shows up as a
> com port under arduino tools. On the Kingdel, it does not. Of course the
> laptop does not have any actual serial ports-just the usb port.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Iznogoud" <[email protected]>
> To: "tclug-list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:34:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] usb com ports
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>>
>> I have a little kingdel box that has 5 actual, 9 pin serial ports. I am
>> working with arduino and need my active usb port to show up as a com port,
>> but it doesn't.
>>
>
> Not particularly clear on what this means, where the USB is, etc. But, if
> you
> are going USB-serial with an FTDi based chip (on the cable), Linux will see
> it immediately as a "COM port" and setup a /dev/ttySx for it. (The device
> permissions will be as the distro decides, etc.)
>
>> ls /dev/tty* does not list any usb devices. Is there a way to make the usb
>> port a com port in this case?
>>
>
> USB ports cannot just act as COM ports. They need the kernel to treat
> whatever is attached to that USB port as a device with an associated driver.
> If you plug a USB device to a running Linux kernel it will find it, and if
> it is a healthy one it should show up  with 'lsusb', like this:
>
> iznogoud% lsusb
> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0328 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 413c:2011 Dell Computer Corp. Multimedia Pro Keyboard
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:1005 Dell Computer Corp. Multimedia Pro Keyboard
> Hub
> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0424:4060 Standard Microsystems Corp. Ultra Fast
> Media Reader
> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0424:2640 Standard Microsystems Corp. USB 2.0 Hub
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:2514 Standard Microsystems Corp. USB 2.0 Hub
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0461:4d51 Primax Electronics, Ltd 0Y357C PMX-MMOCZUL
> (B) [Dell Laser Mouse]
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> iznogoud%
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