Re: Revelation 3:20

"Andrew" <[email protected]> Mon, 6 Jul 2026 03:38:46 -0700
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"Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Samuel Spade" wrote
>> > Attila wrote:
>> >> Samuel Spade wrote:
>> >> >"Andrew" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
>> >> >> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
>> >> >> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
>> >> >> never die."
>> >> >>                        John 11:25-26 NLT
>> >> >
>> >> >Never die?  Are you sure?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hebrews 9:27
>> >> > And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after
>> >> > this the judgment:
>> >> >
>> >> >Never die, once die.  Never die, once die.  Which will it be?
>> >> >Oh, wait:
>> >> >
>> >> > Revelation 21:8
>> >> > But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
>> >> > and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and
>> >> > idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the
>> >> > lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the
>> >> > second death.
>> >> >
>> >> >Damn. Now we're up to the second death!
>> >> >
>> >> >Never die, twice die.  Never die, twice die.  Tough choices!
>> 
>> The default numbur is 'two'.  If you want to die only 
>> once, then you must come up in the first resurrection.
> 
> Oh no you don't.  You're already on record as saying whoever
> believes in Jesus *will never die*. 

That's what _Jesus_ said.

> How do you do that?  As
> you are quoted above, and I repeat:
> 
>> >> >> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
>> >> >> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
>> >> >> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
>> >> >> never die."   John 11:25-26 NLT
> 
> I admit, Andrew, you're on the horns of a dilema.  You can
> either accept John 11:26 and never die, or go by Heb 9:27 and
> die once.  Or, of course, enjoy a rich life of sin and
> abomination, and be blessed with double deaths, per Rev 21:8.

Choose option # 1,

> The choices are all in pretty direct conflict, aren't they?

Absolutely! So make up your mind! 

Choose option # 1,

"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first 
 resurrection. For them the second death holds no 
 power,"                 ~ Rev 20:6