Re: Revelation 3:20

"Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Samuel Spade" wrote
> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >> "Samuel Spade" wrote
> >> > Attila wrote:
> >> >> Samuel Spade wrote:
> >> >> >"Andrew" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
> >> >> >> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
> >> >> >> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
> >> >> >> never die."
> >> >> >>                        John 11:25-26 NLT
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Never die?  Are you sure?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hebrews 9:27
> >> >> > And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after
> >> >> > this the judgment:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Never die, once die.  Never die, once die.  Which will it be?
> >> >> >Oh, wait:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Revelation 21:8
> >> >> > But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
> >> >> > and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and
> >> >> > idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the
> >> >> > lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the
> >> >> > second death.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Damn. Now we're up to the second death!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Never die, twice die.  Never die, twice die.  Tough choices!
> >> 
> >> The default numbur is 'two'.  If you want to die only 
> >> once, then you must come up in the first resurrection.
> > 
> > Oh no you don't.  You're already on record as saying whoever
> > believes in Jesus *will never die*. 
> 
> That's what _Jesus_ said.
> 
> > How do you do that?  As
> > you are quoted above, and I repeat:
> > 
> >> >> >> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
> >> >> >> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
> >> >> >> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
> >> >> >> never die."   John 11:25-26 NLT
> > 
> > I admit, Andrew, you're on the horns of a dilema.  You can
> > either accept John 11:26 and never die, or go by Heb 9:27 and
> > die once.  Or, of course, enjoy a rich life of sin and
> > abomination, and be blessed with double deaths, per Rev 21:8.
> 
> Choose option # 1,
> 
> > The choices are all in pretty direct conflict, aren't they?
> 
> Absolutely! So make up your mind! 
> 
> Choose option # 1,
> 
> "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first 
>  resurrection. For them the second death holds no 
>  power,"                 ~ Rev 20:6

So you're admitting Option 0, "never die", is off the table?
You know, the one you quoted at the beginning of the thread?

"Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never die."
John 11:26

Do you want to see John and Paul duke it out?