Re: Revelation 3:20

"Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> Samuel Spade wrote:
>> > "Andrew" wrote:
>> >> "Samuel Spade" wrote
>> >>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >>>> "Samuel Spade" wrote
>> >>>>> Attila wrote:
>> >>>>>> Samuel Spade wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
>> >>>>>>>> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
>> >>>>>>>> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
>> >>>>>>>> never die."
>> >>>>>>>>                         John 11:25-26 NLT
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Never die?  Are you sure?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hebrews 9:27
>> >>>>>>> And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after
>> >>>>>>> this the judgment:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Never die, once die.  Never die, once die.  Which will it be?
>> >>>>>>> Oh, wait:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Revelation 21:8
>> >>>>>>> But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
>> >>>>>>> and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and
>> >>>>>>> idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the
>> >>>>>>> lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the
>> >>>>>>> second death.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Damn. Now we're up to the second death!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Never die, twice die.  Never die, twice die.  Tough choices!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The default numbur is 'two'.  If you want to die only
>> >>>> once, then you must come up in the first resurrection.
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh no you don't.  You're already on record as saying whoever
>> >>> believes in Jesus *will never die*.
>> >>
>> >> That's what _Jesus_ said.
>> >>
>> >>> How do you do that?  As
>> >>> you are quoted above, and I repeat:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
>> >>>>>>>> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
>> >>>>>>>> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
>> >>>>>>>> never die."   John 11:25-26 NLT
>> >>>
>> >>> I admit, Andrew, you're on the horns of a dilema.  You can
>> >>> either accept John 11:26 and never die, or go by Heb 9:27 and
>> >>> die once.  Or, of course, enjoy a rich life of sin and
>> >>> abomination, and be blessed with double deaths, per Rev 21:8.
>> >>
>> >> Choose option # 1,
>> >>
>> >>> The choices are all in pretty direct conflict, aren't they?
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely! So make up your mind!
>> >>
>> >> Choose option # 1,
>> >>
>> >> "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first
>> >>   resurrection. For them the second death holds no
>> >>   power,"                 ~ Rev 20:6
>> > 
>> > So you're admitting Option 0, "never die", is off the table?
>> > You know, the one you quoted at the beginning of the thread?
>> > 
>> > "Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never die."
>> > John 11:26
>> > 
>> > Do you want to see John and Paul duke it out?
>> 
>> You'll never win this "argument"; you realize that, don't you?
> 
> Well, so far I've got options on how many deaths to die, and a
> license to sin freely in the meantime.
> 
> Losing has its upside.

There are serious consequences for those who 
 refuse life and choose death.

    "As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure
      in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked
      turn from his way and live. Turn ye, turn ye 
      from your evil ways; for why will ye die, "  
                         ~ Ezekiel 33:11

   "And whosoever was not found written in the 
     Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire."
                               ~ Rev 20:15