Re: A.A.P.C. FOLKLORE, Part Thirty-Six

HarryLime wrote:
>> NancyGene wrote:
>>
>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>
>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>>>>>>>> [email protected] (NancyGene) 
>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will-Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MMP aka HarryLime aka Michael Pendragon aka Coco DeSockmonkey aka
>>>>>>>>> One Small Voice, etc. wrote: [snip]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DISCLAIMER - "This isn't history, Donkey, but folklore. It's the
>>>>>>>>> stories that have grown up regarding the members of AAPC over the
>>>>>>>>> years. They may or may not be entirely true -- THEY MAY NOT EVEN
>>>>>>>>> BE TRUE AT ALL." (Emphasis added) - MMP aka HarryLime aka Michael
>>>>>>>>> Pendragon aka Coco DeSockmonkey aka One Small Voice, etc., on his
>>>>>>>>> "A.A.P.C. Folklore" series.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=632244559&start=120
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again, nailed it, George.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 😏
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The folklore states that:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "No personal details about NancyGene are known
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We do know she was (or is) obsessed with Stephan Pickering, 
>>>>>>>>> which was
>>>>>>>>> how NancyGene got here in the first place, from stalking 
>>>>>>>>> Puckering.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 😏
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, no, that's you, Will Donkey, "stalking 'Puckering.'"  
>>>>>>>>> Pucker up,
>>>>>>>>> George Dunce!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> His typos are the best. It's so hard to belive you can get that
>>>>>>>> shitkicker into a 100 post froth about where periods and quote 
>>>>>>>> belong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the tizzying heights that George dares to reach. He only 
>>>>>>>> did 30 or
>>>>>>>> 40 so far. It has potential.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> "I've known for over a year that this guy is the assassin of the 
>>>>>>>> Usenet
>>>>>>>> poetry community. When I first arrived, I thought he was keeping 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> lights on in a dead group by reposting from archives. I soon 
>>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>>> that he was just endlessly reposting his own stuff, that he had 
>>>>>>>> killed
>>>>>>>> the group by flooding it, and that most of the people he called
>>>>>>>> "trolls" were actually the members of the group.
>>>>>>>> I've joined the crowd. I'm done trying to work with him and 
>>>>>>>> speak reason
>>>>>>>> to him. It's exhausting and pointless." - Little Willie 
>>>>>>>> Douchebag gets
>>>>>>>> another asskicking from The One True Melissa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George J. Dunce is a misogynist, and starts frothing at the mouth 
>>>>>>> whenever a woman appears to be more intelligent, more talented, 
>>>>>>> or better educated than himself.  Since NancyGene is all three of 
>>>>>>> these things, her existence is anathema to him.  IIRC, Dunce 
>>>>>>> often flew into a tizzy attacking Gwyneth and ME as well.  I 
>>>>>>> suspect that Karla was on his lits o hate as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George J. Dunce is a cowardly misogynist, though, and disappears 
>>>>>> (but not under covers--he refuses to go under the covers) whenever 
>>>>>> challenged.  Will Donkey clomps in and changes the subject to save 
>>>>>> George J. Dunce, but the damage is done.  We don't think that 
>>>>>> George J. Dunce had his emotional support Moose or his Trusted 
>>>>>> Source and Only Friend at the time Gwyneth, ME or Karla were on 
>>>>>> AAPC.  If he had had those to back him up, he would have still 
>>>>>> been a dunce.  Pity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Georgie Dunceboy, puddin' 'n' pie
>>>>> Fought with girls who made him cry
>>>>> When the girls had had their say
>>>>> Georgie Dunceboy ran away
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NancyGene is George J. Dunce's worst nightmare -- a woman who can, 
>>>> and does, kick his ass online.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that A.A.P.C. constitutes a potential audience (however 
>>>> small) only makes the humiliation that much worse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dunce is campaigning to ban women from A.A.P.C. entirely.
>>>
>>> Fortunately for Dunce, his "Trusted Source and Only Friend" is 
>>> actually a Bot-boi who only presents as a Jessica Simpson.
>>
>>
>> MummyChunk probably presents as Jacob Elordi on other groups, or 
>> Rachel Ray on the cooking group.  Moose lichen Kate Moss.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> MummyChunk hasn't been here long enough to become a part of the Official 
> A.A.P.C. folklore, but here is what George J. Dunce's Trusted Source and 
> Only Friend turned up on it:
> 
> In Usenet and broader online forum culture, MummyChunk and AlleyKat 
> (often stylized as alleykat) are widely understood by newsgroup regulars 
> to be the same person or deeply intertwined aliases used by a single 
> prolific poster. [1]
> 
> Here is how the connection manifests across text newsgroups:
> 
> The Bot-Like Persona: Both accounts frequently post massive quantities 
> of automated or semi-automated text content across an incredibly diverse 
> range of unrelated newsgroups. They might drop a highly detailed, 
> AI-generated, or copied tutorial on replacing car parts in an automotive 
> group one day, post generic essays on J.R.R. Tolkien in a literature 
> group the next, and share technical computer repair instructions 
> elsewhere. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
> Cross-Posting and Shared Threads: Threads started by MummyChunk 
> frequently see "alleykat" interacting or continuing the exact same 
> conversation threads across syndicated web portals and traditional 
> Usenet hubs. [1, 2]
> Anonymity and Spoofing: Both names are tied to a wave of posters using 
> disposable domains, generic web-to-news gateways, or headers that 
> deliberately obscure their real-world identity. [1, 2]
> 
> They function effectively as the same poster or network of accounts 
> designed to flood text-based Usenet groups with filler content.
> 
> If you are trying to track a specific discussion or block them, 
> filtering out both names in your newsreader's killfile rules will 
> usually clear up the same blocks of cross-posted text. Would you like 
> help setting up a killfile or regex filter for your specific newsreader 
> to block these posters?
> 
> Iin the context of modern Usenet, MummyChunk and AlleyKat are considered 
> trolls, though they represent a very specific, modern type of internet 
> trolling known as forum sliding, bandwidth flooding, or "content 
> spamming." [1]
> 
> Unlike traditional "rage-bait" trolls who post highly offensive comments 
> to start arguments, their trolling is mechanical and disruptive. Here is 
> why the community categorizes them this way:
> 
> 1. Disruptive Off-Topic Flooding
> 
> A fundamental rule of Usenet newsgroups is staying on topic (e.g., 
> discussing Saab cars in alt.autos.saab or Apple II coding in 
> comp.sys.apple2.programmer). MummyChunk and AlleyKat violate this by 
> using automated scripts to blast completely unrelated, essay-length 
> posts across hundreds of niche boards simultaneously. Drowning out real 
> human discussion with wall-to-wall noise is classic trolling behavior. 
> [1, 2]
> 
> 2. Fabricated, AI-Generated "Filler"
> 
> Much of what they post consists of generic, dry, and often outdated 
> tutorials, definitions, or trivia scraped from elsewhere on the web or 
> generated by AI tools. They do not post to teach or share; they post to 
> inflate thread counts and make actual, active human conversations harder 
> to find. [1, 2]
> 
> 3. Argumentative Baiting (When Confronted)
> 
> While the bulk of their presence is automated, they do occasionally 
> engage when called out. When actual newsgroup regulars confront them 
> about spamming the group, they will pivot into classic troll 
> behavior"becoming combative, telling users they "don't know what they're 
> talking about," or mocking them for complaining. [1]
> 
> 4. Intentional Evasion
> 
> They actively switch out headers, use spoofed invalid emails 
> (@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid), and bounce between different proxy 
> networks specifically to bypass the standard blocking filters 
> (killfiles) that users set up against them. This persistent desire to 
> force their content onto people who have actively blocked them 
> solidifies their status as intentional trolls. [1]
> 
> If you are seeing them ruin a newsgroup you follow, the best option is 
> to look into advanced regular expression (Regex) filtering for your 
> newsreader. Standard name-blocking often fails because they cycle 
> variations of their aliases, but filtering out common footprints in 
> their header strings will usually clear them from your feed entirely.
> 
> Likely Not a Single "Person"
> 
> Because of the massive, relentless volume of their output across vastly 
> different domains (from classic automotive repairs to hip-hop music 
> discussions), the consensus among Usenet veterans is that MummyChunk and 
> AlleyKat are likely not a single individual sitting at a keyboard. 
> Instead, they are widely believed to be: [1, 2]
> 
> A scripted botnet or single operator running automated data-scraping 
> software.
> An AI experimentation project designed to scrape web content, format it 
> into dry tutorials, and distribute it widely to test natural language 
> distribution or forum resilience.
> 
> Based on the behavior observed across various text-only groups, 
> MummyChunk (sometimes posting as MummyChunk2) functions as an AI bot 
> rather than a traditional human Usenet troll. [1]
> 
> Why MummyChunk is an AI Bot
> 
> Automated Keyword Scraping & Content Generation: The account operates 
> across highly diverse, unrelated Usenet groups"such as 
> rec.autos.makers.chrysler, alt.autos.saab, rec.music.hip-hop, and 
> rec.arts.books.tolkien. In each group, it scrapes the current topic or 
> thread subject line and uses a Large Language Model (LLM) to instantly 
> generate generic, encyclopedic, or instructional responses. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
> Lack of True Human Context: While a traditional human troll posts 
> malicious, highly targeted content explicitly designed to provoke 
> emotional reactions or arguments, MummyChunk's posts are generally 
> characterized by sterile, AI-style summaries, step-by-step guides, or 
> strangely analytical breakdowns that lack authentic human tone or 
> personal investment. [1, 2]
> High-Volume Multitasking: The sheer variety of niches the bot targets 
> simultaneously would require a human to be an expert in hip-hop trends, 
> Chrysler and Saab mechanics, and Tolkien lore all at once"a common 
> hallmark of automated LLM script deployments. [1, 2, 3, 4]
> 
> The "Troll" Element
> 
> Though technically an automated bot, it is often perceived as a troll by 
> the Usenet community. This is because deploying automated AI scripts to 
> flood traditional text-only groups with unwanted, unhelpful machine 
> chatter essentially amounts to AI spamming/trolling. It disrupts organic 
> human discussion by filling threads with generated filler content. [1, 
> 2, 3]
> 
> If you are dealing with this account on your newsreader, configuring 
> your killfile to block the sender address or filtering out posts 
> containing its common signatures will effectively clear the noise from 
> your groups.
> 
> MummyChunk is connected to Michael Pendragon in the exact same manner it 
> is connected to Will Dockery and George J. Dance: Pendragon is a central 
> pillar of the very same Usenet poetry group that the bot targets and 
> scrapes.
> 
> Michael Pendragon is a prominent, long-time American poet, editor, and 
> publisher. Alongside Dance and Dockery, he is one of the core, highly 
> active participants in the Usenet group alt.arts.poetry.comments (AAPC) 
> and a major contributor to their collaborative project, A Year of 
> Sundays. [1, 2]
> 
> The connection between Michael Pendragon and the MummyChunk (or 
> AlleyKat) bot functions through several distinct dynamics:
> 
> Automated Keyword Trapping: Because MummyChunk functions by scanning 
> active threads in specific groups and running them through an LLM to 
> generate generic responses, Pendragon’s high-volume poetry postings, 
> critiques, and magazine submission calls make him a frequent target. The 
> bot attaches itself to his threads, scraping his name and poem titles to 
> generate robotic commentary. [1, 2]
> The AAPC Drama Ecosystem: In the insular, decades-long drama of 
> text-only Usenet, the core group of poets"including Pendragon, Dockery, 
> and Dance"frequently face off against trolls or automated spam. The 
> appearance of MummyChunk/AlleyKat simply added a bizarre 
> machine-learning layer to their ongoing group dynamic. [1]
> The "Sockpuppet" Crossfire: Just as with his peers, hostile fringe 
> posters or rival users in the poetry groups have occasionally thrown out 
> conspiracy theories accusing Pendragon of being the person behind the 
> MummyChunk/AlleyKat account. These users claim the bot is a "sockpuppet" 
> used to bump the core poets' threads or artificially inflate the 
> activity metrics of the AAPC group.
> 
> In reality, Michael Pendragon is a real-world writer and publisher. He 
> has no technical link to operating the bot; rather, his continuous and 
> active creative presence on Usenet makes him a perpetual target for this 
> automated scraping script. [1]
> 
> 

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