WHo is really opposed to "genocide"? was World Central Kitchen deaths in Gaza

pyotr filipivich <[email protected]> Sat, 18 May 2024 14:07:27 -0700
Newsgroups alt.anti-war,alt.christnet.ethics,alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox,alt.peace,soc.rights.human
Organization Theosis via Osmosis
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Steve: Every place where he wrote "Israel" just replace it with "Gaza"
and vice versa.  

	You still apparently feel that what Hamas has done, and promises
to do, is of no import, because "Jews Bad."   You call everything the
IDF does "genocide" debasing the word. 
	 By calling anything the IDF does "genocide", why should they stop
now?
	Disapproval of the world community?  After the UN votes to upgrade
Palestinian UN Membership in the midst of this war, what more are they
going to do I Hamas is destroyed?
	Fear of a forever War?  For your information, the Israelis have
been in an forever war since 1948, have given up territory in an
attempt to gain peace.  They even removed all the Jews from the Gaza
territory, leaving many productive industries behind.  Which the
peacef loving palestinians promptly destroyed. Hamas won the elections
on a platform of destroying Israel and killing all Jews.

	Like I said, for you, everything the IDF does is genocide.  Every
thing Hamas does is just one of those things.  That western
"humanitarian" organizations have been collaborating with the Hamas
regime doesn't absolve them of complicity in their use as human
shields, just as Hamas has been using "civilians" as human shields.

	Your outrage is misdirected.


Steve Hayes <[email protected]> on Thu, 09 May 2024 06:19:21 +0200
typed in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox  the following:
>On Wed, 08 May 2024 16:35:00 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Steve Hayes <[email protected]> on Wed, 08 May 2024 06:47:39 +0200
>>typed in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox  the following:
>>>On Tue, 07 May 2024 19:48:03 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Steve Hayes <[email protected]> on Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:52:49 +0200
>>>>typed in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox  the following:
>>>>>On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:55:58 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>Irrelevant Israeli government agitprop meme.
>>>>>>	So those were not Hamas bunkers under those places.  So who did
>>>>>>build them there?
>>>>>Not 12000 dead children, that's for sure. 
>>>>	So you don't know. 
>>>I don't know whether these tunnels exist, or ever existed outside
>>>Israel agitprop, but if they did, they7 were certainly not du7g by
>>>employees of the World Central Kitchen, not by 12000 ded children.
>>>
>>>Do you seriously think that those people deserved to die because
>>>someone claimed that someone else had dug some tunnels?
>>>
>>>Do you, or anyone elser, have any evidence that the employees of the
>>>World Central Kitchen had anything to do with your tunnels?
>>
>>No, but I do have evidence that you are more concerned about the
>>non-Jews in an urban combat zone, than for the Jews who have had to
>>sleep in bunkers because the peace loving Gazans were being framed for
>>shooting rockets at them.
>>
>>You're moral compass is broken. Period, end of discussion.  You're not
>>anti-war, you are anti-Israel destroying a terrorist organization.
>>Which World Central Kitchen was offering material support for.
>
>I don’t oppose the butchery in Gaza because I love Hamas or hate Jews
>or love Islam or hate America.
>
>I don’t oppose the butchery in Gaza because I’m a lefty or a commie or
>an anarchist or an anti-imperialist.
>
>I oppose the butchery in Gaza because I’m not a fucking psychopath.
>
>Opposing Israel’s butchery in Gaza is so obvious, so common sense,
>such a bare-minimum, fundamental-level, Being Human 101 position that
>if it isn’t immediately self-evident to you after learning the basic
>facts, your problem is much, much deeper than whatever ideology or
>bias or prejudice you might happen to have. There’s something wrong
>with you as a person.
>
>If you support Israel’s butchery in Gaza, you’ve got much bigger
>problems than merely not having the correct ist or ism belief system.
>You’re just all fucked up inside. Your conditioning has made you into
>a generally shitty human being. You have deep and immensely
>consequential flaws in your character, and you won’t mature as a
>person until you heal and transcend them.
>
>Opposing Israel’s atrocities in Gaza doesn’t make you a good person,
>it just makes you a normal person?—?and supporting Israel’s atrocities
>in Gaza makes you a bad person. Nobody gets any points for opposing an
>active genocide; that’s just the basic, bare-minimum requirement for a
>normal human being with a functioning empathy center in their brain.
>If you can’t meet that basic, bare-minimum standard, you deserve to be
>viewed with suspicion and disdain, and anyone in your personal life
>who cares about truth, morality and humanity should seriously reassess
>their relationship with you.
>
>Source:
><https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/i-oppose-israels-atrocities-in-gaza>
>
>
>Ad hominem, yes, though not mine. But since you started with the ad
>himinem, if the cap fits, wear it. 

	You chose sides, do not expect me to bless you for your support of
a terrorist group.


	
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