Re: Naked Before God

On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:23:54 -0700, "newsgroups" <[email protected]>
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>Many religions although not considered "main stream" such as Gardnerian 
>Wicca, perform their worship rituals naked before their God, Goddess, or 
>Spirits, and other practitioners.  That's their Constitutional Right here in 
>the USA where  many narrow-minded people believe you should only have the 
>right to practice your religion the way they like it.   There's a 
>never-ending debate surrounding the Judeo-Christian Bible and nudity, 
>specifically the Old Testament story of Adam and Eve.  Followers of the Holy 
>Roman Catholic religion have writings from their pope on the subject. 
>Interestingly enough, a past pope wrote that when Adam and Eve hid from God 
>and said they did so 
NOT
>because they were naked and ashamed, they did so 
>because after eating from the tree of knowledge, they were overwhelmed with 
>the knowledge.   God asked them, "who told you, you were naked, did you eat 
>from the tree against my instruction?  God didn't reply, "you should be 
>ashamed of yourself" he only told them they were screwed, but not going to 
>die as promised.  God made them covers not necessarily to keep each other 
>from seeing each others "private parts", they already been living naked and 
>they were the only two humans to date, so that age-old argument is only 
>valid to persuade a 3-yr old to keep clothes on in the back yard.  Adam and 
>Eve were the only two living beings, had been living naked and because they 
>ate from the tree now understood the nature of lust between man and woman, 
>and that made them uncomfortable, but they were husband and wife and 
>permitted to lust for each other.  God was also telling them about how hard 
>life was going to be outside the Garden of Eden and it would necessary for 
>covering the body while working in the harsh environment.   So according to 
>the pope, its perfectly OK with God to be naked alone or in groups.   Jesus 
>was baptized naked, and people in his day fished naked.   The pope said 
>there is overwhelming scripture that separates mere nakedness, lust, and 
>lewdness.  I realize only Catholic Christians follow the pope's words, and 
>for every Bible printed, there's a different interpretation.  So the debate 
>goes on...
>Bill S in AZ
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>"FREECOSPIRIT" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
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>> On 31 Mar, 02:52, "Seon Ferguson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'd rather be naked before Mary.
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>> Depends on Mary - but semi-seriously if you believe in God you also
>> believe that he/she is all knowing and all seeing so as far as God is
>> concerned your state of nudity or state of dress is immaterial.  There
>> are some believers who feel that by dressing in your finest clothes
>> for worship you are enhancing that act of worship.  Conversely by
>> appearing in your birthday suit you are showing the one aspect of your
>> appearance that has been positively ordained by God so what greater
>> reverance could you show other than by worshipping naked.  Two opposed
>> and equally valid points of view so prehaps to be on the safe side
>> worship naked during summer months (except in Sans Francisco) and
>> dressed in winter.
>>
>> Watch out for the trolls with horns and pitch forks; I keep mine
>> sharpened just in case.