Re: For years I have mentioned reaching for the like minded.. not the declared enemies.

Dan MacKay <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Jun 26 10:27:02 UTC
Newsgroups rec.nude,alt.cult.nudism,alt.christnet.nudism,aus.culture.naturist
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On Jun 5, 1:20=A0am, sexyboy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 5:56=A0pm, Peter Riden <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Tony (Cox) wrote:
> > > > The best comment I've seen in this group for a long while, separate=
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> > > > my own of course, was this one earlier today: Nudists/Naturists nee=
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> > > > to get over our differences as much as possible. There are big
> > > > powerful institutions out there looking to crush us in any number o=
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> > > > ways. We need all the support and diversity we can manage to put in
> > > > our big tent, and when we can't fit someone in our tent, we need to
> > > > support them having their own tent, and hope they support us in our=
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> > This has been said by myself numerous times in different words but I
> > believe I live up to it and have been vehemently attacked for doing
> > such and included in the few attackers is the very one who posted that
> > comment.
> > If you say 1 thing and do the exact opposite mostly when it comes to
> > repeating my words in a certain way yet attacking me for standing up
> > for what I believe in... it's not much going to get results from those
> > who still suck up to the most narrow-minded elements of society. So
> > Stuffy repeating my words yet going the opposite way doesn't get much
> > credibility, here.
> > But because I've been telling my few enemies to take a look at whom
> > they try to suck up to gain acceptance and stop attacking the more
> > liberally minded ones who at no time would attack any alternative
> > lifestyle including Nude is a social context or their own lifestyles..
> > yet the few enemies are the ones who ask the ultra uptight narrow
> > minded ones to check us out as us being the perverts, the bad ones the
> > dangerous ones.
> > I'm not talking about diverging ideas or opiniuons.
> > Look, Cheri that got a bit of your exasperation directed her way has
> > definitely more mild views of Nude Recreation than you and I Tony but
> > I never saw hwe attacking wither you, or myself the way I see The
> > Little Tribe members doing.
> > When I read the likes of Bill Pennington and daring talking about
> > disrespected posters and to no surprise "Anna" zooming on you, Tony,
> > as being the #1 or "He should be considered as nudism's Osama bin
> > Laden. He should be considered nudism's ENEMY NUMBER ONE " it brings
> > back the fact that their kind is more in direct line with the
> > conservatism and fanatism exhibited by O. B. L. and followers.
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> > > > Wake up to yourselves you idiots that continue to, and constantly i=
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> > > > some cases, attack any nudist venue that may not be your ideal.
> > > > After a while it comes across as either a vendetta or jealousy or a
> > > > combination of both!
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> > That is exactly what takes place but give credit to Cheri.. she didn't
> > go bizzerk the way ON~Anon and any and all few members of The Little
> > Tribe went rabid on my venture and myself.
> > But what you write sums up what really animates those who go in such a
> > frenzy for that long against an opponent they can't defeat.
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> > > > Sure - If you have a bad experience somewhere personally then you h=
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> > > > every right to state that, but with facts!
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> > > > Stupid innuendo, and irrelevant messages, damages the posters more
> > > > than the target, as is proved daily with "annas" posts.
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> > Again... reminding the many that you read what each write and take it
> > from there rather than being carried by "innuendos".
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> > > > Have never understood the concept of making comment about a product
> > > > you've never tried yourself.
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> > Ask that to The Little Tribe. No one ever came at TGB yet they have
> > attacked for quite a while because they feel it represnets something
> > other than what they truyly are.
> > So if we repesnt inclusivenes and open-mindedness... then you know
> > what they are opposed to.
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> > > > Not your cup of tea? Cool - then don't try that product! But don't
> > > > denigrate those who do - That's basic discrimination as I see it. I=
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> > > > it's legal, and you want it gone, then change the fucking law!
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> > > > The attempted discrediting of Carolina Foothills in this thread is
> > > > another example of such bullshit, and those blindly following the
> > > > initial Cheri comment should be ashamed of themselves!- Hide quoted=
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> > > > - John answered the following
> > > Tony....your analysis reeks with bias....certainly a club owner would
> > > naturally have this opinion....
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> > I'm sure John that you agree with Tony on this analysis when it comes
> > to a club/resort owner who has been under attacks by some who have no
> > ideas of what the place or the owners are all about. They obviously
> > attack more for what the destination, such as TGB or Tony's
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> > but its like we might all like walmart
> > but we pay for our goods and have a right to complain if things are
> > not satisfactory....same as a place of recreation....if things do not
> > suit our expectations we have a right to complain as Anna does... but
> > as i have told her ...the complaining tends to increase the amount of
> > perverts and lessen the amount of conservative clientele.....may be
> > this is the way society works....if hanky panky is rampant then expose
> > the facts and let the clientele decide for themselves...but humans are
> > like cattle get one to go the direction you want them to go and the
> > rest will follow...to be fair to the club ...Cheri should ....tell all
> > the facts rather than expect all to follow.....but she understands the
> > cattle rule i suppose.....regards...jz
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> Never under estimate the power of the dark side, The anti-pleasure
> people will stop at nothing to impose their will on all
> nonconformists. I think it was H.L.Menkin who described a puritan as
> someone who is worried that somewhere someone is enjoying themselves.- Hi=
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Now, now....


They are not "Anti-Pleasure"....

It pleases them no end to be able to control all aspects of how you
get your pleasure, and tax it as much as possible.