Re: Laura Leyrer Recommends Hedonism

Dan Myers <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Jun 26 10:26:52 UTC
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On Sep 3, 5:26 pm, Nudiarist <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Let me be clear - I have no problem with whatever sexual activity
> occurs between consenting adults. Sex is adult play and is perfectly
> normal. What I take issue with is selling adult lifestyle recreation
> as nudism, or calling the people at Hedonism nudists.

And why shouldn=92t we call them what they are or let them call
themselves what they wish?
If they are comfortable being naked/nude then they have the right in
my opinion to use the label =93Nudist=94 if they so wish.

> That's like
> calling every women who every posed for Playboy a "nudist", or every
> baby that's born naked a "nudist". AANR and TNS work very hard to
> convince the public that nude recreation as defined by traditional
> philosophies is non-sexual and is appropriate for all ages. What
> Hedonism, Caliente, Paradise Lakes and other adult clothing-optional
> resorts are selling is not nudism - it's the further sexualization of
> the human body, a product of our porn-infested society.

Not quite right.
What AANR and TNS work so very hard to do is to tell everyone that
their form of nudism is the only =93proper=94 form of nudism.
They are actually making it easier for people like the =93Anna=92s=94 and
=93JonZee=92s=94 to undermine and cause trouble for nudism because they
(Anna and JonZee) at least to a degree speak something of the truth,
though in a highly biased and twisted fashion.

Their types highlight the sexuality that is inherent in everyone as
=93something that is bad and to be ashamed of=94 and the activities of
groups like AANR and TNS just make it so much easier for them by
trying to deny this inherent sexuality that even the most ignorant in
society recognizes in themselves.

The human body is already =93Sexual=94 those establishments and others
like them really do nothing to =93further sexualize=94 the human body, nor
is our Society =93Infested=94 with porn as you imply.

>
> I also have no particular problem with pornography - whatever floats
> your boat. But nudism is supposed to be the antithesis of pornography,
> a celebration of the human body instead of exploitation.

Nonsense, pornography is also a =93Celebration=94 of the human body in all
it=92s delights and wonders, neither of them is the =93Antithesis=94 of the
other except maybe in the opinions of people such as yourself.

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> Laura Leyrer is an admitted novice in the nudist world. She needs to
> do a lot more homework.

Actually though brief I thought her article fairly well written.
The problem was that you and those like you did not agree with nor
like what she wrote.

Too Bad, others of us are more open-minded and liked it.
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