Re: My teacher said I'm not smart enough for a smart card

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 9 Feb 2025 11:04:16 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Frank Slootweg wrote on 2/9/25 4:02 AM:
>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> micky wrote on 2/8/25 12:01 PM:
>>>> My "new" renewed laptop has a smart-card reader, but no one has issued
>>>> me a smart card  (Apparently I'm not smart enough to deserve one.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there much chance, most likely if I have the case open for another
>>>> resson, I can take out the reader and put in something more useful, like
>>>> another SSD, or maybe a DVD drive?
>>>>
>>>> Dell Latitude 5510
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> It's a whole lot more simple than you percieved from the info(manual, on
>>> the net, etc.).
>>>    => One purchases an SDXC Card(aka smart-card) in a desired size,
>> 
>>    I think Dell's use (if that's actually what Dell does) of the term
>> "smart-card" when really referring to a SD card is needlessly confusing
>> and hence inappropriate. If they mean 'SD card', then *say* 'SD card'!
>
>Hi, Frank.
>  I only used the term 'smart card' for micky's benefit.
>  His device(Dell 5510, if that's what it is) comes in different 'flavors'
>  - 5510, 5110 Precision, 5510(at one time a Costco and Sam's model), etc.
>  - Not all 5510 builds are identical.
>
>One model has SD card slot and a SIM slot, others have the SD Card slot.
>
>There are different manual's for 5510's(base model originally released as 
>the Inspiron 15(5510) in 2021.

This is the first time that wrt this topic, I've seen the word Inspiron.
I'm surprised that Dell has two 5510's, since confusion is likely (and
sure enough, that's what we've had), but it appears to have both.   I've
been talking about the Latitude 5510. 

I notice that the one I have doesn't say either Latitude or 5510 on the
top or the inside, only on the bottom. 

>  - the Dell as-built-shipped 5510 Precision manual indicates the 
>slot(port) as a 'Memory Card Reader - SD 4.0
>  - The Dell as-built-shipped 5510 manual indicates the slot(port) as a 
>'Card slot - micro SD card slot'.
>  - The Dell as-built-shipped 5510 manual(with the SD and SIM) indicates 
>the slots(ports) as 'Card slot - micro SD card' and 'SIM Card - uSIM card 
>slot'
>
>No reference whatsover in those manuals or specs using the term 'smart card'.

But there is here: 
https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/latitude-15-5510-laptop_owners-manual2_en-us.pdf
>
>> 
>>    I checked the Wikipedia 'SD card' page and there's not a single
>> mention of 'smart-card' (any spelling). It only mentions "smartSD cards",
>> but those are special cards with a secure element, which are used in the
>> payment industry, i.e. nothing to do with regular SD cards.
>> 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_card>

But it was not I who brought up SD cards.  I referred only to smart
cards. 
>> 
>>    Bottom line: micky's Dell computer has a *SD card reader*. Nothing
>> special.

Nope. 

>  Which raises the question...
>  => Does the 'service manual' micky referenced actually call it a 'smart 
>card' slot,

Yes.  in the link above
(https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/latitude-15-5510-laptop_owners-manual2_en-us.pdf)
see the picture at page 9, item 5. 

> or is that micky's terminology/interpretation for the 
>device's 'Memory card or Card Slot or uSIM' slot/port!!!

I'm unlikely to use any language other than what my sources do, but if I
had, I would have corrected myself as soon as someone brought up SD or
uSIM or any other inapplicable word. 
>
>And yes, as you noted..regardless of any of the 5510 models(as-shipped) 
>it has an SD card reader(capable of an inserting and SDHC or SDXC card).

Mine has all 3, an SD card slot, a SIM slot (right below the SD slot),
and a smart card slot.  See Page 9, items 1 and 2 are not marked
optional. 

The smart card slot is about 2" wide and 1/16" high.

I have often used my phone as a hotspot, including often in the car, and
it's worked well, but if the phone were to fail, I gather I can just
take the sim out and put it in the laptop and that's all it takes. ??

This one even has a network port, so I don't have to depend on wifi. 
Because the case is not quite thick enough, the bottom of the jack
hinges down
>
>> [Left for reference:]
>> 
>>> inserts in the SDXC slot, formats if desired to NTFS or eXFAT and uses it
>>> for additional storage.
>>>    The SDXC slot is also capable of accepting most camera SDXC cards.
>>>
>>> SDXC cards, when purchased are usually micro-size SDXC cards and almost
>>> always include an adapter. The device with the SDXC card slot can be
>>> different type/sizes(micro or full)...for a micro size card itself or the
>>> the provided adapter with a micro-size card(inserted into the adapter)
>>>    <https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-cards/>