Re: The FBI's new tactic: Catching suspects with push alerts

Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Mar 2024 01:33:45 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups alt.comp.issues.privacy,alt.privacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
Organization dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 10 Mar 2024, Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> posted some
news:[email protected]: 

> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:51:53 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
> <[email protected]> said: 
> 
>> Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/29/push-notification
>>>-surveillance-fbi/ 
>>>
>>> The alleged pedophile "LuvEmYoung" had worked to stay anonymous in
>>> the chatrooms where he bragged about sexually abusing children. A
>>> criminal affidavit said he covered his tracks by using TeleGuard, an
>>> encrypted Swiss messaging app, to share a video of himself last
>>> month with a sleeping 4-year-old boy.
>> 
>> The hard way to learn, that encryption doesn't implicate anonymity.
> 
> Not only that, but it should also inspire significant skepticism with
> regard to any provider's claims about generation and retention of any
> data that could potentially identity you. Case in point: 
> 
>      Privacy protection on TeleGuard
> 
>      TeleGuard uses HTTPS and end-to-end encryption to protect its
>      users' privacy. No user data, including IP address, metadata,
>      etc., is collected or stored. The messages are stored only until
>      they are delivered. After delivery, they are deleted immediately.
>      Thus, if no backup has been created, there is no possibility of
>      recovery. 
>      
> The language used here is absolute, not only implying, but outright
> /stating/ that no data is generated/stored by anyone that could
> identify a user. 
> 
> Their privacy policy page makes similar claims: 
> 
>       What do these guidelines cover?
> 
>      This data protection declaration ("data protection") sets out the
>      data protection declaration of Swisscows AG (hereinafter referred
>      to as "Swisscows") and applies to users ("user" or "you") of
>      Swisscows products, currently known as "TeleGuard" ("TeleGuard").
> 
>      This declaration applies to all products and services that we
>      offer across our entire website, and also applies to the website
>      and your use of TeleGuard ("services"). THIS POLICY DOES NOT
>      APPLY TO THIRD PARTY WEBSITES, PRODUCTS OR SERVICES, EVEN IF
>      THEIR WEBSITE IS LINKED TO OUR WEBSITE. PLEASE ALWAYS CHECK A
>      THIRD PARTY'S PRIVACY PRACTICES BEFORE DECIDING WHETHER TO SUBMIT
>      INFORMATION. By using our website or services, you accept the
>      practices described in this policy. If you do not agree to this
>      policy, please do not visit or use our website or our services.
>      Your continued use of our website or services means that you
>      accept this policy. 
>                                                      [Emphasis added]
> 
>      What data do we collect?
> 
>      IP addresses
>      IP address is NOT saved.
> 
> Nice weasel-wording -- TeleGuard don't collect your IP address, but
> third- parties can, and they're off the hook for that one. 
> 
>      Data acquisition
>      
>      We do not collect personal information from our visitors.
> 
>      When using TeleGuard, your IP address is not recorded, nor do we 
>      record which browser you are using (Internet Explorer, Safari, 
>      Firefox, Chrome, etc.). It is not recorded which operating system
>      you are using (Windows, Mac, Linux etc.), and your search queries
>      are not recorded. The only information we store is the sum of the
>      search queries entered daily on our website (a measure of the
>      total traffic on our site), a breakdown of this traffic by
>      language and pure overall statistics.
> 
>      Our strict policy of not collecting any data protects your
>      privacy. 
> 
> Which is apparently entirely negated by third parties doing so.      
>      
>      Your IP address and information about the browser and operating 
>      system could be used together with other data to clearly identify
>      your computer, your place of residence and you. It is also
>      important not to save any search terms, as these can also contain
>      personal data. (Just think of someone who enters their own name
>      and / or insurance number in the search box.) 
> 
> The story outlined in the Washington Post puts the lie to their
> bullshit. 
> 
> Lessons to be learned here: 
> 
> 1) Don't enable push-notifications, EVER. 
> 
> 2) Make sure that if you connect an email address to a TeleGuard
> account, 
>    that it is a secure one, i.e. created/accessed via Tor
>    /exclusively/. 
>    
> 3) Take any 'secure' service provider's promises and statements with
> not 
>       just a pinch of salt, but rather a carload. 
>       
> 4) Remember the lessons of history -- Hushmail made similar promises,
> and we 
>    all know how /that/ turned out -- 12 CDs of *decrypted* email
>    turned over to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). 

Anything in a data centre can be grabbed by the feds of any country at any 
time putting thousands of legit subscribers at risk.  Very clever of the 
LEOs to figure that push trick out.