Re: Naked Before God

(ru) dolf: "Well yes, we could say that there is a little of this 
Nicole's grasping photos of her new born and a contrast to Sydney born 
and bred Hugh Jackman's wolverine super-hero character {Male Idea: #461 
as #1 #10 #400 #50: Very extended, lasting; constant; continuity, 
constancy, strength; firm, durable; mighty ones, nobles; rocks} and his 
early days as a grease monkey at Wahroonga Shell, that a comparison 
could be drawn with Meryl Streep's character and pious portrayal in a 
'dingos got my baby.'

Then there is the aspect that her own name (Streep) is testimony to 
Nicole and Keith's wedding of 25 June 2006 having a temporal (steeping) 
connection with the Category of Understanding #321 {Female Idea: #321 as 
#1 #10 #300 #10 n. Manly #1 #20 #300 Coil up; roll up #1 #300 #20 To 
bind, to knit together #1 #300 #20 String, (of pearls); testicle, sexual 
use of testicle}.

I've heard stranger things in the press...

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/kangaroo.html

Barry <comingsoon@home> aka Barry [Yellow] OGrady 
([email protected]) wrote:
 > "dolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
news:[email protected]...
 >> Unfortunately the Victoria Police Ombudsman office is closed for the 
Easter Public Holiday and I was unable to return their call in relation 
to my 2009.4.1 letter to them with delivery confirmation as advice 
receipt occurring 2009.4.8.
 >
 > I heard they closed because they knew you were going to call.
 >
 > How does it feel having someone do to you what you have done to others?
 >
 >

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; 
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men 
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the 
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man 
presseth into it."

#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of 
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to 
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day 
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of 
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in 
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the 
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox 
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of 
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as 
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth 
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie. 
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar 
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri 
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st 
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on 
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month." 
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula 
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1} 
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1, 
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE:     1, 2, 3
TWO:    0, 3, 6
THREE:     0, 9, 18
FOUR:     0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number 
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206 
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE:    0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX:     0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN:    0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE 
of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and substantiation of Christian 
identity.

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the 
law to fail.

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth 
adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband 
committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

The substantiation for which is explained in metaphysical terms {ie. the 
#237 - USE OF FORCE, ITS RELATION TO AUTONOMIC RIGHT UNDER THE STATE, 
and CHRISTIAN IDENTITY} as a technology for managing MARRIAGE:

.jackNote@zen: 4, row: 4, col: 2, nous: 7 [Super: #492 / #50 - Fantasies 
of Avoiding Death/ Estimation of Life; I-Ching: H2 - Passive 
Principle/Earth; Tetra: 77 - Compliance, Ego: #390 / #7 - Intentional 
Reversal/ Dimming Radiance; I-Ching: H12 - Stagnation; Tetra: 56 - 
Closed Mouth]

@memeBrain [Super: #45 - Extremes and Reversals/ Greatest Virtue; 
I-Ching: H49 - Revolution; Tetra: #28 - Change, Ego: #4 - Using 
Guidance/ Sourceless; I-Ching: H27 - Nourishment; Tetra: #81 - Fostering]

Male Idea: #45 has 0 Categories; Female Idea: #4 has 0 Categories

@memeBrain [Super: #44 - Moderate Values/ Setting Up Precepts; I-Ching: 
H1 - Creative Principle/Heaven; Tetra: #36 - Strength, Ego: #23 - 
Constancy of Guiding Concepts/ Emptiness & Non-Existence; I-Ching: H18 - 
Arresting Decay; Tetra: #26 - Endeavor]

Male Idea: #89 has 0 Categories

---    reddish or red spotted.
---     to puff, to pant.
---    n. "Circuit".
---     to be gibbous, bulging; to enclose.
---    n. "Circuit".
---     silence; stillness (of winds), a calm.
---     to strike, push against.
---     to thrust, push; to overthrow, repulse, drive out, expel.
---     to testify or bear witness; to cause to testify, to take for 
witness.
---     necklaces.
---     to cover, hide.
---    little ones; young children; a family.
---    n. "Yah Gives Ear".
---     to clothe; to counsel; a counselor.
---     concubine.
---     a bar (of iron).
---     to take up, to raise a weight, to hoist; to lift or put on; to 
impose;
---    to lift up.
---    a burden or load.
---     n. "Ornament of Yah".
---     ravenous beast; bird of prey, an eagle.

Female Idea: #27 has 0 Categories

@memeBrain [Super: #55 - Abstruse Signs/ Signet of the Mysterious; 
I-Ching: H22 - Grace; Tetra: #54 - Unity, Ego: #81 - Making the Essence 
Clear/ Propounding the Essential; I-Ching: H11 - Peace; Tetra: #15 - Reach]

Male Idea: #144 has 0 Categories

---    a violent man, robber.
---     a knowing one; a wizard; intelligent; magician; a wizard spirit.
---    without
---     n. "Dropping" (of a city in Judea).
---     to smite; to mourn.
---    n. "Repose" or "Resting Place", a city in Judah and a cave.
---    kid of the goats.

Female Idea: #108 has 0 Categories

---    powder.
---     to grasp or hold.
---     to pour out, to make empty, to desolate.
---    n. "Greeks".
---     prayers(?) --- making affirmations by Amen.
---     and he rests not.
---     n. "Captive".
---    a wall, party-wall.
---     to be sharp, to be gold, oppressive; to use violence, to hurt; 
to violate a law; to cast down, to shake off; violence, wrong; wealth 
wrongfully obtained; ill-gotten-gain.
---    to incline towards; to be gracious to, to favor; to bestow 
graciously; to pity; to be charitable; to groan, sigh; to show mercy, to 
compassionate; n. "Gracious".
---     the browser, a locust.
---    to stop up, to muzzle; to impede or stop.
---     the middle, the midst; half, the half; arrow.
---     bosom; a decree, resolve; what is cut in or graven; prescribed, 
appointed; a task; allowance; boundary; statute; body of laws; decree 
(of God); a portion or custom (established by law).
---     n. "Command of Yah".
---     straight ahead; in front of; in behalf of.
---     tower of God.
---     a circuit or area (around a house).
---     waters of Noah (the deluge).
---     a keeping back or warding off.
---    tossings, startlings (in slumber).
---     a she-calf, heifer or young cow.
---    a cart or wagon; a roller or sledge (for threshing); a chariot.
---     n. "Hill" or "Eminence".
---     take, pray!

The idea (ie.

@memeBrain [Super: #20 - Left without Language/ Different From the 
Vulgar; I-Ching: H33 - Withdrawal; Tetra: #50 - Vastness/Wasting, Ego: 
#3 - Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet; I-Ching: H46 
- Moving Upward; Tetra: #8 - Opposition]

Male Idea: #164 has 0 Categories

---    n. "Small".
---    outer; civil (profane).
---     dainty (of food).
---     knowledge, understanding
---     to cut or hew.

Female Idea: #111 has 0 Categories

---    red or ruddy. (also "manly" --- this word is Adonai made substance).
---    attached; familiar; friend; domesticated or tame; ox; the letter 
Aleph; head of a family; chieftain.
---    to bind, to join; a family, a thousand; to learn; to teach
---    they.
---     to press, to urge, to force.
---    troubles ("no secret press thee").
---     to fall or sink; to set, become dark; to be drooping or tender.
---    sunless, dark; sunset, darkness; concealment; mischance.
---    n. "Pistacias" (nuts).
---     n. "Knowledge of God".
---     lo! now!
---     come out, descended (as offspring).
---    n. "Pining".
---     so, thus, in this manner; as is said; namely.
---    n. "Yah is King"
---     a covering or veil.
---    to wear mud-boots or shoes; to be shod; booted.
---     to be thorny.
---     burnt-offering, holocaust; ascent or stair-case.
---    wickedness or wrong, n. "Evil" of a tribe in Edom.

of condoms increasing sexual activity outside marriage)

@memeBrain [Super: #78 - Recognizing Fidelity/ Trust in Faith; I-Ching: 
H59 - Dispersal; Tetra: #47 - Pattern, Ego: #55 - Abstruse Signs/ Signet 
of the Mysterious; I-Ching: H22 - Grace; Tetra: #54 - Unity]

Male Idea: #242 has 0 Categories

---    hearth.
---     n. "Heroic".
---     great hero, n. "Lion of God"; God's altar; hearth of God.
---     to sever; be clean; test or prove; bind, interweave; but, yet.
---     n. "Yah is Mindful" or "Yah is Male".
---     a margin, border.
---     n. "No-pasture".
---     for multitude
---     n. "Increase" --- of a daughter of Saul.

Female Idea: #166 has 0 Categories

---    a sucking child; a young twig, a shoot.
---    n. "Yah Sets Up".
---    n. "Confidence", "strong".
---     darkness of Yah (profound darkness).
---     a raised road, highway.
---    a dwelling, habitation; a lair or den; at home; abode, asylum or 
house; n. "Habitation" --- of a city in Judah near a desert; n. "Asylum" 
--- of an Arabian people; n. "Dwelling".
---    n. "King's Servant"
---     equal to (or as much as) the children of Judah.
---    to fasten or fix; to counsel or decide.
---    to bloom or flourish,
---    The High One, Most High; high or upon.
---    The Highest or Supreme (deity).
---    n. "Son of my Kin" (born of incest), Ammon --- a son of Lot by 
his younger daughter, also the descendants of Lot or Ammonites.

that you can solve a great spiritual health crisis like AIDS with a few 
mechanical contraptions like condoms is ridiculous.

@memeBrain [Super: #32 - Natural Guide/ Virtue of Holiness; I-Ching: H44 
- Coming On; Tetra: #43 - Encounters, Ego: #25 - What's behind it all?/ 
Imaging the Mysterious; I-Ching: H62 - Small Excess; Tetra: #10 - 
Defectiveness/Distortion]

Male Idea: #274 has 8 Categories: #4, #20, #200, #50 = Record, register; 
#4, #200, #70 = To scatter, to sow; arm; n. Pearl of Knowledge; #40, 
#200, #4, #20, #10 = n. Belonging to Marduk, Mordecai --- Esther's 
foster-father, who became chief minister of the Persian court; #70, #4, 
#200 = To arrange or marshall; to set in order; to dig or dress; to 
muster; to miss or find wanting; #70, #4, #200 = An array or muster; a 
herd or drove; #70, #4, #200 = n. Herd; #70, #200, #4 = To tremble or 
fear; #70, #200, #4 = n. Wild Ass;

Female Idea: #191 has 10 Categories: #1, #30, #50, #70, #40 = n. God is 
Delight; #1, #80, #10, #100 = Strong, powerful; #1, #80, #10, #100 = 
Flowing, stream; a river-bed, sea-bottom, a valley; #1, #80, #10, #100 = 
n. Fortress; #1, #90, #100 = Will be poured; #1, #30, #10, #100, #10, 
#40 = n. God Sets Up; #5, #6, #100, #10, #70 = To impale or crucify; #5, 
#40, #100, #6, #40 = The locus or place --- 
omicron-tau-omicron-pi-omicron-sigma (#790) in Greek. (Interpreted as a 
name of the Deity in the sense that all existence is in the deity as a 
thing is in a place. --- see #637); #40, #30, #20, #10, #1, #40, #30, 
#20 = King of kings --- spoken of the kings of Babylon; #40, #90, #1, 
#20, #40 = Your finding;

@memeBrain [Super: #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising 
Placidity; I-Ching: H7 - Army; Tetra: #32 - Legion, Ego: #19 - Argument 
for Ethical Anarchism/ Returning to Simplicity; I-Ching: H57 - Gentle 
Penetration; Tetra: #58 - Closing In]

Male Idea: #283 has 10 Categories: #10, #5, #6, #5, #1, #200, #6, #50 = 
Ark of Jehovah; #3, #80, #200 = To bind, to be hard, strong; cypress, 
gopher-tree; #3, #200, #80 = To seize, grasp; grapple; #60, #3, #6, 
#200, #7, #5, #2 = Treasured gold; #7, #20, #200, #6, #50 = Memorial; 
record, account; #7, #200, #6, #70 = A seed; #50, #200, #3, #30 = n. 
Crusher, Nergal, a god of the Cuthites thought to be representative of 
the planet Mars; #60, #10, #3, #10, #40, #10, #60, #80 = Silver of dross 
(unrefined silver); #70, #7, #6, #200 = n. Helper; #70, #3, #30, #10, 
#40, #70, #10, #50 = n. Calves' Fount, (well in Moab on east shore of 
the Dead Sea);

Female Idea: #210 has 0 Categories

--- assembler; n. "Assembler" (proper name of the compiler of the 30th 
chap. of Proverbs).
--- to close, shut up; to bind, to hamper.
--- n. "Lame".
--- lame, hampered.
--- to slay among.
--- to glow, make hot, melt; to try, examine; approve, choose; delight in.
--- to be ripe, mature; a youth.
--- n. "Gracious Lord".
--- skin bottle, flask; n. "Emptying".
--- to break through or away, to flee with haste; fleeing, fugitive; 
fleet, quickly gliding.
--- to cut down, fell; slaughter, kill; divide; decide; determine; 
piece, part (of a victim); precipice.
--- to cut off, sever; n. "A Waste".
--- to pierce (of thorns); to move around, to turn oneself round, to 
continue; to dwell; to arrange; a period, age, generation; race or 
class; dwelling; circle; pile (of wood); a ball.
--- (Mother); to conceive, to become pregnant; to meditate; to have 
posterity.
--- to bind, string together, to unite, to be allied; to charm, 
fascinate; to hurt; conjuror; associate, a companion, friend; society or 
company; spell or charm; magician; partner.
--- to be sharp, to cut; to dry up; to be desolate, waste; to be 
desolated; to lay waste; dry, desolate, waste; a sharp or cutting tool; 
a sword; dryness or drought.
--- "Yah is Righteous".
--- "may it be God's will" by Noteriquon.
--- to deride.
--- crushing; doormat; hammer.
--- to ascend, to go up.
--- pleasantness.
--- to fix in.
--- to push; to supply.
--- to divide, to branch out;
--- double minded, uncertain.
--- to be firm; spear.
--- according to thy mouth, on thy mouth.
--- to sink down, to dip, to be deep; to be unsearchable.
--- deep, unfathomable or unsearchable.
--- deep place or depth; a valley.
--- n. "Hardy", an Egyptian people.
--- n. "King's Oracle", an idol or god of the Sepharvites, Ammelek.
--- n. "Hill Man".
--- trees; boards, timbers; sticks.
--- to be firm.
--- spear.
--- to close or shut up; to hold back, to detain; to rule or control; to 
gather or amass.
--- wealth or dominion.
--- a shutting up or closing; constraint or oppression.
--- curve.
--- to step, walk, tread, stride, pace, march.
--- to strike (to pieces), split or rend.
--- a distinct or definite one, such a one.
--- to peel; "combat standing order" by Noteriquon.
--- a rib; the side (of a man); side-chamber (in a temple); a fall or 
overthrow.
--- to be low, to be humble.
--- to load, to pack up; to migrate; n. "Tanis" of an Egyptian city.
--- n. "Smith" --- name of a descendent of Seth.
--- caster oil seed; raven or pelican; abnormally large testicles.
--- to peel or shell.
--- to tie, press.
--- to fine or impose a penalty (Talmudic law: especially for seducing a 
girl --- punishment for statutory rape).
--- fold, plait, pleat.
--- rain.

Given refusal of communion towards homosexuals as evidence of a 
continuing Fascist empathetic Theology of sexual exclusion & the 10 
steps of Three-Dimensional Cellular Automata, even Randy ® [Sody] 
Barbara ([email protected]) would ask whether as is envinced by 
Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's 25 June 2006 wedding at Manly Sydney, 
there is a disrespect by the Roman Catholic Church of our autonomic 
right under the State to have a Private Wedding in a space free from 
heterosexist antagonisms.

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Neosapienis <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is the response I got from Kevin Moore, who was mentioned in the 
> original article:
> 
> 
> Amazing, Dario- you've managed to do it yet again.
> 
> What, exactly, do I find so amazing, you ask? To be blunt: how much you 
> misunderstood or read into the text of that several years old article. Yes, 
> years. That article was NOT about the 2008 CNC, if you were to check your 
> facts. While I chose not to attend the 2008 event I was at the event 
> discussed (I'm the "Mr Moore" referred to), and I know for a personal fact 
> how badly it was represented in that article. The reporter was from a local 
> sensationalist newspaper, and her intent was more to titillate her readers 
> than to actually speak the truth. She had a nasty habit of taking ordinary 
> events and making them sound exceptionally sleazy, and it sems you took that 
> to heart.
> 
> Ok, let's see...
> 
> You said:
> "Would you see any Christian woman, nudist or otherwise, ever dress like 
> this"?
> 
> Later in the article's text it clearly states that Rick was the only CNC 
> attendee at the dance, so there was nothing to say that the woman was or 
> wasn't a Christian- it's never discussed. Good job...
> 
> "If he can't be social in nudist environments, then he can't be at others 
> either.  It says something about him that he's too scared to tell other 
> people his real name.  So much for nudism being about 'nothing to hide'."
> 
> It doesn't say he can't be, it says that he isn't, with no reason given. 
> Also, Rick IS his real name, but you never have understood why some people 
> prefer not to give their full name at every opportunity. Not fully 
> disclosing that doesn't make him a liar, and fear doesn't have to have 
> anything to do with it.
> 
> "Such an event goes against Jesus' teachings of proselytising the gospel to 
> all and sundry."
> 
> To quote you: Huh?
> 
> "Also, I don't agree with Mr. Moore's..."  Me, remember? "...assertions that 
> nudists have a poor view of Christians.  Many non-Christian nudists respect 
> Christians just as long as they don't go bullying or intimidating them with 
> hellfire and brimstone if they don't accept Jesus.  Jesus never taught like 
> that."
> 
> If you read closely, apparently not your best attribute, you'll actually 
> find that I actually made the same basic point that you did. Also, as a side 
> note, I have to say here that young Ms. Elizabeth, the article's author, had 
> a penchant for misquotes. Contrary to opinion, just because it's in print 
> does not make it true.
> 
> "Sounds like the Health & Safety government department should pay Cherokee 
> Lodge a visit.  Rustic buildings are a hazard, and they either need to be 
> renovated or demolished."
> 
> Rustic doesn't necessarily mean in poor condition. The buildings were aged 
> wood, but in fine structural condition.
> 
> "If that's the case, then they are not good Christians.  On the contrary, it 
> is very evil to threaten people with a miserable afterlife if they do not 
> conform to one's religious beliefs."
> 
> You've always been quick to point out when others aren't good Christians, 
> when that isn't your call to make. Also, nothing was said about anybody 
> threatening anybody with brimstone- it was just stated that many Christians 
> find nudism against their own personal Christian beliefs, and that they 
> therefore believe that nudists, even Christian ones, are misled and destined 
> for hell.
> 
> "Jesus taught to 'judge not, lest ye be judged'."
> 
> That's funny, coming from you. Listen to your own advice!
> 
> "> The CNCers adhere to the latter. Nudity is righteous, but at certain
>> temperatures, cavorting without your pants on becomes a little silly.
>> Today, as the session drones on in the sticky heat, even Kevin leads
>> worship totally nude, baring an upper body shaved to appear near
>> prepubescent.
> 
> Then that is a double-standard if you read the earlier comments about the
> disco that they had where some of the punters were dancing pantless."
> 
> This whole section is non-sensical, both from Elizabeth's side and yours. 
> She makes the point that it's strange to undress in the heat, which makes 
> only common sense, and you reply with comment to the dance the night before- 
> at night in the mountains of Tennessee. You may not realize it, but it gets 
> a bit chilly there at night, and some people put clothes on. Another fine 
> example of speaking without fully understanding the facts.
> 
> "Ever heard of towels and sunscreen?"
> 
> Yeah, and we had both in abundance.
> 
> "This is where he..." Meaning me, again "...has got it incorrect.  Nudity is 
> seen as being wrong when a person is drunk, or if you get them drunk, or if 
> you deprive a person of
> clothes when they are cold or in need.  Jesus also reprimanded the Laodicean 
> church in John's Revelations where he accused the church of being 'poor, 
> naked and blind'.  The nakedness is spoken about in a metaphorical sense 
> than a literal one."
> 
> Once again we actually agree, yet you say you disagree with me. I said the 
> Bible never says nakedness is inherently (meaning in and of itself, with no 
> outside or other considerations or conditions) wrong, and you then proceed 
> to preach that exact point. A good idea when reading is to look up any word 
> you don't understand so that you won't misunderstand what's being said...
> 
> "> It's that zeal that helped him become the CNC's new leader. He was
>> elected to take the helm when the convocation last convened a couple
>> of years ago at White Tail Resort in Virginia. CNC creator and nudist
>> humour author Allen Parker asked Boyd and Kevin to be the CNC
>> torchbearers after the convocation fell short of his expectations.
>>
>> Parker started the CNC in 2003 to unite a handful of Christian nudist
>> resort chapels with the hope that they'd confederate and start
>> churches in nudist resorts across the country. Instead, he says the
>> CNC morphed into what it is today -- more of a social outing, a place
>> for meeting, greeting and fellowship time.
> 
> I think Allen needs to try a bit harder.  There is more to Christianity than
> just social outings and meet & greets, it's about fostering lifetime
> friendships and relationships and supporting each other in hard times and
> good times alike."
> 
> Firstly, Allen never asked neither Boyd nor me to take over; that's simply 
> another misquote. Boyd volunteered, and I later agreed to lead a session. 
> Secondly, it's pretty damn ballsy of you to quip that Allen just needs to 
> try harder. You don't know the man; I do. Also, once again, if you READ, 
> you'll see that his intention was to build churches, not just to have 
> "social outings and meet and greets".
> 
> "Hasn't she ever heard of an apron?  Cooking over a barbecue without some
> form of protection is pretty stupid."
> 
> You're again making a snide reply to what was already a snide comment 
> intended solely to misrepresent nudists. Thanks for the help.
> 
> "If that was me, I'd tell the social worker to mind their own business - 
> they're MY children, not theirs.  The government should stay out of the 
> private lives of the community members."
> 
> I'm sure that would work well. Try that some time.
> 
> "What a bunch of paranoid gits!  These people are not Christians at all. 
> Whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?"
> 
> Here I'll just refer you to my above comments about other persons' beliefs, 
> and about judging.
> 
> "I wouldn't find gyrating overweight 40-something women who are badly 
> dressed to inspire lustful thoughts in me.  A trim and shapely woman in her 
> late teens to early 30's no doubt will, but there is a difference between 
> sexual attraction and lust.  Sexual attraction is natural, but lust is more 
> than just being attracted to a person, it is about wanting to own and 
> possess that person all to yourself.  This is what Jesus Christ meant in the 
> often misquoted verse "Whoever looks at a woman lustfully has committed 
> adultery with her in his heart" that fundies quip to try and make out that 
> seeing females naked or in revealing clothing is a sin."
> 
> Freudian slip, anybody? You just admitted to lustful thoughts about 
> teen-30's women, then knocked lust. You condemned yourself. Oh, then the 
> wonderful derogatory "fundy". Nice.
> 
> "Then that's their problem, not mine.  The weaker brother needs to make 
> himself strong."
> 
> Yeah, weaker brothers need to strengthen, but with the help and support and 
> teaching from the stronger. The stronger, among whom I do not place you, 
> should not have a "that's their problem, not mine" attitude. Love your 
> neighbour, remember? Build up, not tear down? Sound familiar?
> 
> "It's sad that after having children, many women just let themselves go 
> instead of working hard to keep fit and healthy."
> 
> I think you were deriding someone earlier about body-acceptance...?
> 
> Next you made a quirky face about the hot-tub incident. Apparently you've 
> missed all the previous talk about this incident, so I'll clear it up for 
> you: Elizabeth makes it sound like the Christians cornered the poor 
> defenceless atheist in the hot-tub, but truth be told, HE began the 
> discussion. Also, the reason that nobody knew his name the following day was 
> because it was neither asked for nor offered. The entire incident was put in 
> an extremely poor light that it didn't deserve, specifically to make the 
> Christians out to be the bad guys attacking the innocent atheist, and it is 
> one of the primary reasons that those of us who actually attended know what 
> Elizabeth's true intentions were about reporting on the weekend.
> 
> "Yuck!  They should invest in some air conditioning and spray some fragrant 
> oils into it to counteract the problem."
> 
> Another exaggeration. There was nothing wrong with the atmosphere or 
> temperature in the chapel.
> 
> "Sounds like he needs a bit of vocal training.  I'd find that sort of thing 
> pretty funny if it didn't make my bumgrapes bleed."
> 
> He did fine, but apparently Elizabeth either had no previous experience with 
> a Charismatic preacher, or she simply (again) wanted to make him look bad. 
> Again you've managed to help her position at the expense of ours.
> 
> "Hmmmm, the Bible condemns gossip."
> 
> Yeah, but the people who were called gossips were the women in the office, 
> and it was the Christian women who were offering them gifts in spite of 
> that. Let's pay attention, shall we?
> 
> You call yourself a Christian, but most of what you did in this post was 
> make quips and smart-ass comments about people, places, and situations of 
> which you have no first-hand experience. You may say the same about me, but 
> the difference would be that I do have first-hand experience, and I do know 
> of what I speak, and why the mis-truth of it should be infuriating, where-as 
> you do not. I would call that gossip; if you weren't there you don't know, 
> and the only reason you'd have to post would be to circulate what you've 
> only read about, without knowing the truth, or lack there-of, of it.
> 
> It's easy to sit back years after the fact and coach from the couch, 
> replying to what was originally a poorly written, openly antagonistic and 
> horribly misrepresenting article, but is it appropriate? All you've done in 
> my opinion is give false witness about us by fostering this garbage.
> 
> If and when you reply, try to actually address my statements, without 
> side-bar or simply spouting scriptural "proof" as to why I'm wrong.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> By-the-by... I know the time-zones can throw things off a bit, but exactly 
> how is it May 3rd, 2009 where you're at...?
> 
>