Jacob "wrestling" with his God or with an angel?
David Dalton <[email protected]> Wed, 04 Jun 2025 03:10:35 -0230
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Am I right in saying that in the Jewish Torah Jacob is said to have wrestled with his God whereas in the Christian Old Testament it says he wrestled with an angel? I believe the reference to Jacob “wrestling” with his God at night means he negotiated with his God on behalf of all humans in his (large, but not global) region, but over a period of 18 years, not just one night. Now in scripture there is evidence for Jacob working for the father of Rachel and Leah for 14 years, but is there any evidence for the other 4 years? Are there any references to Jacob in the Koran? If so, does it mention the wrestling incident, and if so, does it say with his God or with an angel? -- https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S.McL.)