Re: Betrayel

On 8/7/2024 7:04 PM, liaM wrote:
> On 8/8/2024 4:02 AM, liaM wrote:
>> On 8/7/2024 11:07 PM, slider wrote:
>>> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 21:53:44 +0100, David Dalton <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 7, 2024, slider wrote
>>>> (in article <op.2r5imgxw7eafsp@slider>):
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:18:05 +0100, liaM<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 8/7/2024 4:08 AM, slider wrote:
>>>>> > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:07:55 +0100, kami<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 23:17:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > https://slowspacetemplehealing.help/2024/08/02/betrayel/
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > The christian church, not Christ, go hand in hand with 
>>>>> psychiatry,
>>>>> > > > > they
>>>>> > > > > say only maybe a few hundred or thousand can be healers, 
>>>>> have christ
>>>>> > > > > consciousnes if any one, or be seers etc., but according to 
>>>>> indigenous
>>>>> > > > > people "mental sick" persons could be chosen to heal (see 
>>>>> homepage)
>>>>> > > > > etc...
>>>>> > > > > According to Phil Borges information that about 20 % of the 
>>>>> population
>>>>> > > > > at least in the west are diagnosed with "mentall illness" 
>>>>> you can
>>>>> > > > > calculate that about 1.6 billion people probably worldwide 
>>>>> could be
>>>>> > > > > considered healers or seers or anything spiritual help for
>>>>> > > > > humanity....
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > that is just delusional thinking, romanticising defects as 
>>>>> doped alloy.
>>>>> > > ### - not really, in india for example mentally ill/challenged 
>>>>> people
>>>>> > > are
>>>>> > > considered to have been blessed by the spirit, and are revered...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As in many tribal cultures, people are not thrown to the street 
>>>>> or to
>>>>> > Gaza when they happen not to belong to the dominant sects.
>>>>>
>>>>> ### - there have been enough cases of that though: the inuits used 
>>>>> to put
>>>>> granny out on the ice when her teeth wore down; no longer of any 
>>>>> practical
>>>>> use and a drain on precious resources they simply threw her away? 
>>>>> (which
>>>>> all seems a bit callous to me lol)
>>>>>
>>>>> so no, not only in cases where society took pity on others for 
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> reason and tried to look after them (although undoubtedly there was 
>>>>> some
>>>>> of that too, particularly in families unlike the inuit) but because it
>>>>> was/became generally recognised that spiritually advanced people often
>>>>> behaved in unusual, sometimes seemingly totally crazy ways! the 
>>>>> average
>>>>> man in the street being unable to discern genuine madness from those
>>>>> spiritually advanced, it became normal to consider that that might 
>>>>> be the
>>>>> case and so rather than shunning them like they do today, they 
>>>>> honoured &
>>>>> revered them instead...
>>>>
>>>> "Seven years your right, under a flagstone, in a quagmire,
>>>> Without food, without taste, but the thirst you ever torturing,
>>>> The law of the judges your lesson, and prayer your language:
>>>> And if you like to return You will be, for a time, a Druid, perhaps.”
>>>> (Ancient Irish Poem)
>>>>
>>>> (but of course I have had 4X7 so far)
>>>
>>> ### - that's actually very nice... but there are modern equivalents 
>>> too...
>>>
>>> e.g., "genius is often touched with madness", or "there's no such 
>>> thing as genius that isn't touched by madness"
>>>
>>> or an even better one said by mick jagger in the film 'Performance'
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_idn3bWXMl0
>>>
>>> "i'll tell you this: the only performance that makes it, that really 
>>> makes it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves 
>>> madness, right? am i right? you with me?"
>>>
>>> a truly great movie ;)
>>>
>>
>> Anyone living in a small village or commune, where nearly everyone
>> is an acquaintance or friend, knows that there's not a single
>> person or child that is not distinctly different from everyone else.
>> In such a place, a person has to be accepting else become a pariah of 
>> sorts, the sort of person who makes a case of his or her difference.
>>
>> It may take awhile, but things will soon reveal themselves in the USA.
>> The pariahs will take a fall, much like Eugene McCarthy in the '50s
>> or Trump in 2020.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump have to
>> spend time in jail, genius pariah that he is..
>>
> 
> 
> oops - joe not eugene :)
> 

Yes. Definitely Joe, not Eugene. I voted for Eugene McCarthy
in '68 as a write-in (in Wisconsin), after he had withdrawn from
the race.

Joe, on the other hand, had the nick-name of "Tail-gunner Joe",
referring to the very dangerous position of the rear gunner in
air force bomber. As the wiki article points out, this was actually
kind of a slam...
---
Following the end of World War II, he attained the rank of major.
He volunteered to fly twelve combat missions as a gunner-observer.
These missions were generally safe, and after one where he was
allowed to shoot as much ammunition as he wanted to, mainly at
coconut trees, he acquired the nickname "Tail-Gunner Joe". Some
of his claims of heroism were later shown to be exaggerated or
falsified, leading many of his critics to use "Tail-Gunner Joe" as
a term of mockery.
---

And Tail-gunner Joe plays a prominent role in one of Dragned's
best Drag Queen stories, one of my favorites to read out loud,
called "The Shit Midas", where Tailgunner plays an important
role as the mentor to the Great Cohn-head (Roy Cohn), who
confers on Midas (Donald Trump) the power to turn people
into shit.

It's the 3rd most recent story in Dragned's oeuvre, which you
can find here (3rd back from the upper left)...
https://tinyurl.com/DragQueenStory

Ned