Re: Betrayel

% wrote:

>everyone can be all or part of the total

Moving the goal-posts, everyone 
can do anything. Everyone is affected
by everything and when an example shows
how not everyone can nor does, then an other
example is given to suggest everyone would be if ...

Mirrors may affect everyone.
Then again, some are unable to see, to know.
They can't see and don't know their own reflection.

Logically speaking, presumptions, axioms and such 
allow for a conclusion to be valid without being sound.
Logical fallacies are known by logicians to include a few.

Epistemologically speaking, to know, without doubt,
everyone is or would be affected by a substance, a noun,
a thing, falls into a category of not being able to be.

Lots of people might insist, nouns exist.
Their definition of what existence is may vary.

A state attained or obtained by some people 
may be called mystical, ecstatic, religious, etc.

Not everyone who takes mushrooms has a mystical
or religious type of experience nor becomes a sage.

That was a point being made, until, far from being
a sage, a statement was made about effects
that, ahem, everyone will experience.

Even in a set and setting predisposed to afford
such a type of experience, not all people will.
Some might have a horrible experience.

When a so-called, individual, is already at
an ecstatic state, to then presume a substance,
a mushroom or an acid, will have an effect
can be done, even though it does not.

Neem Karori Baba was reported to have been
unaffected by a substance. To know what it does
does not entail being affected by it. 

When some body is already moving at light speed,
that body is immediately where it is seen to be going
by viewers who view it as going some where.

Statements were made about other people,
e.g. Tolle, Chopra. To miss a point is possible.
People who were diagnosed as being ill. 

Whether a necessary predisposition exists
in order to arrive at a place of no place
might place a body in the physical.

Some people might insist they are bodies.
Other people may say they have bodies.

What is called, mental illness, varies 
as it is defined and redefined by cultures.

With a form of ego-loss, some non-dualists may speak,
knowing full well how such talk doesn't go to show
others who think, feel and/or know, they are.

Once upon a time, an individual arrived at a point
where there was no individuality and he appeared
to be as it were God. Paranormal activities were a
common enough manifestation of his, siddhis.

Ram Dass was impressed. His guru was God
as far as he was concerned at the time. Baba
had the answers Richard was looking for.

When he was ready, his guru appeared.
The guru knew where he was the night before,
thinking about his mother who had died, etc.

He was above being affected by mushrooms, acid
and other substances known to have an effect
on most mortal men and women. 

Within a philosophy called Daojia, a parent
as it were of Zen, a phenomenon called
immortality may occur. Transcending,
as if in a butterfly dreaming it was
an other more than Zhuangzi.

When an individual is no longer an individual,
to be affected by what effects a substance has
might be subjected to words. Ore knots.

- thanks! Cheers!