Re: Betrayel

slider <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda,alt.support.depression,alt.support.schizophrenia,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <op.2satewqh7eafsp@slider>
On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:43 +0100, % <[email protected]> wrote:

> slider wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 03:47:18 +0100, % <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> slider wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 02:50:03 +0100, % <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> slider wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 02:00:56 +0100, % <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> slider wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 21:42:48 +0100, someone <[email protected]>  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> slider wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ### - the 'fact' remains that everyone who took it WAS affected  
>>>>>>>>>> in SOME
>>>>>>>>>> manner, they might not have had a beautiful mystical experience  
>>>>>>>>>> or seen
>>>>>>>>>> 'god' or whatever, in many instances what people experience is  
>>>>>>>>>> an absolute
>>>>>>>>>> nightmare, but affect them in SOME way it does!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everyone, as a term, tends to be an over-generalization.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://andrewhidas.com/on-the-passing-of-ram-dass/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <<   ...  Ram Dass gave him staggering amounts of LSD,
>>>>>>>>> only to see Baba completely unaffected and
>>>>>>>>> playfully begging for more. ... >>
>>>>>>>>  ### - i dunno what your problem/objection is, or why you're in  
>>>>>>>> such denial?
>>>>>>>>  but you've totally twisted/misconstrued that famous quote,  
>>>>>>>> because it goes-on to say that an hour after taking it baba's  
>>>>>>>> eyes just twinkled, and then he (baba) commented/remarked that it  
>>>>>>>> (the lsd) "gives you little siddhis"
>>>>>>>>  and siddhis means 'powers', so he described it as giving people  
>>>>>>>> "little powers"
>>>>>>>>  and with baba being an enlightened person one can only assume  
>>>>>>>> that he knew wtf he was talking about
>>>>>>>>  whereas 'you' clearly do not even when presented with reasonable  
>>>>>>>> argument, so are not prepared to learn either/are of closed  
>>>>>>>> mind...
>>>>>>>>  and seeing as i don't have any energy to waste on obtuse fools,  
>>>>>>>> this conversation is therefore: over.
>>>>>>>>  byeeee...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ouch
>>>>>>  ### - damn right ouch! that's exactly what someone gets if they go  
>>>>>> around 'posing' as a zen master hehe ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> ok it did look like he had it coming but still ... ouch
>>>>  ### - twisting the Truth to suit a false agenda is a heinous error  
>>>> of the spirit...
>>>>  your twice pain, however, deserves an explanation...
>>>>  but only just this one time (smile)
>>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASAlgTJ3x2c
>>>>  ;)
>>>
>>> damn , and i don't got to posted web sites
>>  ### - you really need everything spelled out huh...
>>  it's an explanation of 'Kyosaku' ;)
>>  this example is without the provided explanation (so try to get to see  
>> it)
>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzRz74-YHA
>
> this isn't going to work  ,
> i think you should spell something out ,
> not say it and then direct me to ,
> a place where some stranger is rambling on ,
> using a method that can be altered in any way you like ,
> i wanna know what you think

### - you could google the term 'Kyosaku' and immediately understand it  
that way? it's not rocket science ya know :)

as for my spelling things out... what if (smile) i can't spell correctly,  
or use terms you're not familiar with? then we'd be right back to square  
one again huh...

(so listen carefully ok?) - the dude being struck with a stick in the 2nd  
video clip (only about 60 seconds worth of video) telling it's own story  
which you can then spell out to yourself in your own language & style,  
whereas explaining all that + the concept itself would take an age of  
typing and thinking (and probably correcting heh) and even then there's  
much room for misunderstanding...

in this instance the picture paints a 1000 words and it would have clicked  
with you immediately without all the fuss, and perhaps have even been an  
interesting experience for you in the process...

i.e., there's perhaps better ways of quickly explaining difficult things  
rather than spelling it all out, and less room for error ;)
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