Re: Betrayel

slider wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 12:17:46 +0100, one <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> slider wrote:
>>> one wrote:
>>
>>>> Sounds like an evangelism failure.
>>>
>>> ### - well that's exactly what the frog said too lol, and closed the 
>>> door?
>>
>> Not in the tale I've read.
> 
> ### - i know, i know... i changed the story to put a different spin on 
> it so you could 'see' what i was saying/suggesting... and so now there 
> are 2 version of the frog-story and neither is correct because that's 
> all just words and words are not the measure of truth, they only have 
> the meanings we give them :)
> 
> 
> 
>>> will tell you one last story then, it's kinda true but am telling it 
>>> in my
>>> own, flowery/exaggerated way, so don't take anything 'too' literally, 
>>> ok?
>>> ya have to read it between the lines kinda thing ;)
>>>
>>> i.e., back in the time of the buddha not long after he'd gathered his
>>> first few students, rumours spread around locally that something 
>>> weird was
>>> going-on up at this buddha-dudes camp, strange smiling people with 
>>> shining
>>> eyes seen wandering around and coming and going from the place
>>>
>>> eventually, a local reporter got onto the story and decided to go and
>>> investigate, and walked into this camp looking for an interview with 
>>> this
>>> buddha-cat, to ask him what's going on here...
>>>
>>> sure enough and true to the reports going around, there's a whole 
>>> bunch of
>>> odd people wandering around in this camp with beatific, idiotic 
>>> smiles on
>>> their faces, talking to themselves and laughing and pointing at quite
>>> ordinary things and then staring at them in awe like they've seen them
>>> before??
>>>
>>> our reporter asks everyone he passes where he can find this buddha-chap
>>> but none of them responds to him like they can't hear him or don't know
>>> what he's saying, they just stare and laugh insanely and continue with
>>> what they were doing...
>>>
>>> eventually, he comes to a little clearing and finds some old guy sitting
>>> by a pool dipping his hand into the water and letting it run out again
>>> through his fingers, and somehow he knows that this is the dude he was
>>> looking for whose running the place, and asks him what the hell is going
>>> on here and why the hell is everyone acting so strangely??
>>>
>>> and without answering him, the buddha just points to a pure white lotus
>>> flower blooming vividly above the cesspit it has its roots in and is
>>> growing up out of... and something strange happens to our reporter as it
>>> slowly dawns on him what the buddha is saying/suggesting...
>>>
>>> and then 20 minutes later he too is wandering around the place laughing
>>> and joking and smiling at everything and everybody, just like he'd never
>>> seen any of it ever before ;)
>>>
>>> the end. :)
>>
>> A transformative experience, at the ashram.
>>
>> Returning from the mountain, taking a form
>> of bliss back to a city, trying to tell so-called
>> others who don't care and have, important
>> matters that have captivated their attention,
>> an evangelist might fail and it may suggest
>> the experience was not complete and total.
> 
> ### - smile, buddha was famous for hardly ever speaking, there were even 
> riots at one ashram where he was asked to give a speech to all the other 
> holy men who'd come to this important mela/celebration, a celebration 
> that only happens every 33 years, everyone gave great speeches and were 
> applauded and when it was his turn buddha got up on the stage and the 
> crowd fell silent, buddha was very famous by then and everyone wanted to 
> hear what he going to say, well he looked at the crowd for 15 minutes 
> saying nothing and then got down again haha, everyone went crazy lol... 
> his 'silent' speech saying more (and traveling farther) than all the 
> other holymen speakers before him haha (true story btw)
> 
> iow: in many instances just the silent 'vibe' alone of an enlightened 
> person is enough to affect everyone around them, people begin to get 
> high just from their presence alone...
> 
> and yet words are important sometimes, if only to catch people's 
> attention ;)

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