Re: gold hits $2,722 !

slider <[email protected]> Sat, 09 Nov 2024 12:33:42 -0000
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda
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On Fri, 08 Nov 2024 03:51:56 -0000, He Who Sees All  
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 00:04:42 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Nov 2024 11:56:39 -0000, He Who Sees All
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 10:15:43 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:55:37 -0000, He Who Sees All
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:44:42 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:36:54 +0100, He Who Sees All
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:53:42 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ### - hmmm... with gold hitting $2,700 it definitely looks like
>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> on the brink of a much wider conflict in the middle east, it being
>>>>>>>> unlikely that anything can stop it now short of iran being nuked
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> submission overnight... and because how else could such a vast
>>>>>>>> nation
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> suddenly brought to it's knees otherwise without them wrecking
>>>>>>>> israel
>>>>>>>> 'and' the global economy in the process to boot??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and because all this 'talk' about hitting just their military  
>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>> just wouldn't be enough to stop them launching just about  
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> have, which is rumoured to be around 150,000 rockets! only a 3rd  
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> would literally flatten israel regardless of their iron dome!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i.e., just can't imagine israel (or the west) taking such a risk??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so then methinks we've decided that iran has to go huh...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it ain't gonna be pretty!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh boy...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Slider, you're doom mongering again.  It won't happen.  No party
>>>>>>> want's the global elites disrupted, let alone destroyed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### - still in total denial of reality eh? (and that's why you come  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> for info huh)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well no one really wanted ww1 & ww2 either thang, but they still
>>>>>> happened!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin
>>>>>>> doesn't want to lose his $200 bn fortune, his dachas, palaces etc,
>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>> do the Russian oligarchs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### - 30+ million russians died in ww2, do you think russia really
>>>>>> 'wanted' that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no, things escalated beyond anyone's ability to choose and everyone
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> sucked into it, that's what a world war is!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The US billionaires don't want apocalypse,
>>>>>>> nor do the Jews in Israel who have vast fortunes through their
>>>>>>> contacts and networks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### - what the 'west' wants (and that includes israel) is an end to
>>>>>> fundamentalist islam as a competing entity on the world stage, the
>>>>>> seat
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> which resides in iran...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i.e., hammas is gone, lebanon is crippled, and iran's other  
>>>>>> satellites
>>>>>> (like yemen and iraq) aren't powerful enough to make any difference  
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> their own... the choice now on the table (for israel & the west) is  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> take iran down as well and thus end all this shia-shit once and for
>>>>>> all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and they're genuinely thinking about doing it!!! (scary shit)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or do you really think they wont take advantage of the current
>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>> they themselves have engineered at such great expense??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel will not attack the oil or nuclear
>>>>>>> sites and Iran will make token, but strong, reprisals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### - that was last year, things have changed since then...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's gone beyond all that now and israel is effectively in an open  
>>>>>> war
>>>>>> with iran fully backed by the west, both sides trying to kill each
>>>>>> other's
>>>>>> leaders ffs! (which is how ww1 started?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> incidentally, gold reached a record $2,740.91 on monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then everyone will settle down.  There are more pressing problems,
>>>>>>> such as accelerated climate change and loss of global fertility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### - lol talk about wishful thinking? the question you 'should' be
>>>>>> asking, is 'how' is israel gonna emasculate iran without getting
>>>>>> themselves destroyed in the process via an ever increasing  
>>>>>> tit-for-tat
>>>>>> scenario!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i.e., israel is only a small nation and can't handle being pounded
>>>>>> whereas
>>>>>> iran is a vast country! even carpet bombing iran wouldn't have any
>>>>>> effect
>>>>>> on their ability to retaliate en-mass!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well imho there's only one way they could actually do it, and that's
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> level iran's capital(s) onetime when all their leaders are there,  
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> iran can systematically destroy israel by firing 1000's of rockets
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> day after day until there's nada left, or so so much damage done to  
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> can't function...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and israel simply can't afford to let that happen!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the west being only too happy to oblige coz they want iran out of  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> as well...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and because iran, russia & china are the 3 final obstacles to  
>>>>>> western
>>>>>> global domination, remember?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that's exactly what's happening sport...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it's happening.... TODAY!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (or maybe tomorrow, but sooner now rather than later) for instance,  
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> thinking such weapons have possibly already been smuggled into and
>>>>>> secreted in iran just waiting for a signal to set them off
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current chatter however is about whether russia will come to iran's
>>>>>> aid
>>>>>> like they did syria that time coz then the whole world would be
>>>>>> dragged
>>>>>> into it 'regardless' of what anyone wants, whereas several small
>>>>>> unannounced nukes would be impossible to reverse, with more deaths
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> hiroshima iran would be gone and there'd be nada russia could do  
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> that would be worth doing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so let's just hope they don't do that huh...
>>>>>
>>>>> As usual, in the passage of time, I'm proven right and you're proven
>>>>> wrong...again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here it is on 28 October, the Israeli strike has happened, no big
>>>>> deal, acknowledged by Iran as very minor damage to some radar
>>>>> installations on the fringe of Iran - and NADA from Iran.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because, Brian, the global balance will not be upset by either state.
>>>>> Gaza is a different story, no one cares, no one at all.  Nor is
>>>>> Lebanon a big deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Iran, and Israel, are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry mate, no global catastrophe this time and probably never.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a lovely day here in Perth, Western Australia - 32C today,
>>>>> tomorrow to be 37C, in November around 40C, moving right up to a hot
>>>>> summer around 45C or more to peak.  Lovin' life!
>>>>
>>>> ### - that's genuinely the closest we've ever come to it sport & it's
>>>> not
>>>> over until the fat lady sings, plus methinks we were lucky there it
>>>> didn't
>>>> kick-off, israel not taking them out (this time) as expected,  
>>>> preferring
>>>> to instead goad iran into retaliating, iran preferring to hold back  
>>>> and
>>>> play the long game rather than risking the chance of looming
>>>> annihilation
>>>> at both israel and america's hand, they actually backed down! (quite
>>>> surprising really)
>>>>
>>>> israel can't, of course, just settle for that nor leave things there,
>>>> iran's not gonna go away and is only back to biding its time while  
>>>> doing
>>>> repairs, a window that wont remain open for long if israel wants to go
>>>> any
>>>> farther before they make those repairs... cue then more goading!
>>>>
>>>> failing iran being drawn-into that, there's nada now stopping iran  
>>>> from
>>>> developing a nuclear warhead (if they haven't already) and israel  
>>>> knows
>>>> that, so something decisive will still have to be done before it ever
>>>> gets
>>>> to that point...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-developing-nuclear-bomb-stockpile-to-destroy-israel-netanyahu-6894868
>>>>
>>>> thus excuses will have to be made/generated to take iran down one way  
>>>> or
>>>> the other, iran apparently not being as stupid as it looks agreeing  
>>>> now
>>>> that the scores are even again, although in reality they've been badly
>>>> damaged by this last attack in the eyes of the rest of the world and
>>>> their
>>>> own people, their last hope now being to nuke israel at some later  
>>>> point
>>>> versus israel's hardly gonna wait until that happens, this creating  
>>>> yet
>>>> another window that wont remain open forever, iran in the corner  
>>>> playing
>>>> rope-a-dope wont work either...
>>>>
>>>> in the meantime, however, the world has dodged yet another serious
>>>> flashpoint/bullet, for sure no one wants it, but also for sure is the
>>>> fact
>>>> that both sides are never gonna stop until something resolves one way  
>>>> or
>>>> the other, plus also for sure is that iran wont just die without a  
>>>> fight
>>>> either...
>>>>
>>>> so it's still all on the cards sport, we just don't know now how or  
>>>> when
>>>> is all...
>>>>
>>>> i.e., presumably, israel will now go heavy on iran's satellites and
>>>> proxy
>>>> leaders hoping iran will respond with something that justifies israel
>>>> hitting them again, that the goading will thus continue even harder  
>>>> than
>>>> before, a win-win situation for israel either way as iran appears
>>>> increasingly weak for not retaliating ever-harder as they  
>>>> threatened...
>>>>
>>>> iran is surely aware of all this, however, so why they didn't go  
>>>> all-in
>>>> this last time is surprising, the west called their bluff and they
>>>> backed
>>>> down on what might have been their last chance to really damage  
>>>> israel:
>>>> they bottled-out of it! (very surprising!)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mei.edu/blog/weekly-briefing-following-israeli-counterstrike-iran-region-appears-pull-back-brink
>>>>
>>>> the west will, however, have to make sure they're no longer a threat  
>>>> so
>>>> it
>>>> ain't gonna stop pounding on iran now until they either surrender
>>>> completely or go down in some final blaze of glory, so it's all only
>>>> delayed/not over yet old bean... their blaze of glory option is  
>>>> rapidly
>>>> fading, however, in which case it looks like the remaining muslim
>>>> nations
>>>> will all be slowly rounded-up and metaphorically kept on controlled
>>>> reservations like the native americans were...
>>>>
>>>> this was their last chance/hope and they blew it, they're basically
>>>> screwed...
>>>>
>>>> this making russia & china up next then huh ;)
>>>
>>> Today the Supreme Ruler in Iran commented that there will be a
>>> retaliation and it will "shatter their teeth" or somesuch.
>>>
>>> So, another step up the ladder if it does happen, and if it does, it
>>> evidently will in the next 2 days.
>>>
>>> I would think if US interests are to be struck, then right in the guts
>>> of election day would be a good time to do so.
>>
>> ### - am just surprised they's draggin' it out this long? perhaps for
>> israel to have public opinion more on their side when iran maybe hits
>> something more important to them than just open fields and the  
>> occasional
>> car park, the 'justification' for reducing iran to nada perhaps not  
>> being
>> quite there yet in the minds of the rest of the arab world, who will  
>> then
>> later comfort themselves by claiming that iran only brought it on
>> themselves, kinda thing...
>>
>> surely iran realises tho' that this is prolly their last chance and that
>> they're unlikely to get another, so it 'could' get more interesting yet  
>> as
>> the time for 'token' hits has already passed, and because if they don't  
>> go
>> all-in this time then the west surely will and iran will be gone back to
>> the stone age overnight lest they be allowed to do too much damage...
>>
>> unless, of course, that 'damage' is useful in some way to western
>> interests ;)
>
> Western interests have just radically changed in all ways with Trump's
> ascension.  He despises Iran and adores the jews, loves hard men of
> Bibi's style, so things will change after January.  In the meantime,
> we have that useless, dribbling mess of a loser lame duck Biden barely
> able to hold the reins with his palsied hands - he won't do a fucking
> thing, too stupid and too old.  Weak as piss.
>
> He may, however, in his waning few months, give Ukraine the ability to
> hit Russia hard and deep with long range missiles before Trump takes
> power.  Who knows?
>
> I'll be sitting back with popcorn (figuratively) and beer watching the
> lovely chaos unfold.  Won't affect me in the least.

### - whatever america does always affects the rest of the planet, the  
credit crunch started there, austerity started there, shit trickles down  
ya know? :)))

he didn't even win via some sudden surge towards trump-ism, but by 13.5  
million voters who previously voted for biden not bothering to vote at  
all, such mass apathy putting that idiot back in office without any  
restraints whatsoever lol, even after all the shit that went down before  
about him being impeached twice, convicted of several felonies, fined  
millions for sex abuse & outright lies, drummed out of new york for  
questionable business practices, trying to rig the election, getting the  
capitol building stormed by armed mobs, etc, etc, etc, etc...

and what do they do? did they learn anything from history and vote for  
some kinda sanity??

nope, after firing his ass from the job the first time they put the fucker  
BACK into power with no restraints upon him whatsoever LOL, and THIS time  
he's pissed-off!

and THAT'S completely... INSANE!!! :D

in which case am inclined to think they rather deserve anything they get  
huh, they really do, only i also know/realise that they're all basically  
damaged goods with no real lives to call their own, that they don't  
actually know what they're doing!

'slaves' perforce having no other real recourse than to vote for their  
master every time, no matter how despotic or cruel that master might be...  
that humanity is very damaged/disabled in that sense, effectively crawling  
along on their bellies in the shit; they're certainly not free like they  
love to imagine! all that's just bs in their heads!

sigh, no matter 'how' hard i try i just can't see them surviving, ya know?

coz they haven't got anything going for them and there's no one to even  
look after them!

added to which, they're all a bit thick innit haha: as dumb as a bucket of  
rocks ;)

it's hard not to feel sorry for 'em knowing it ain't gonna be at all easy  
for them...

all that crap in gaza being only the beginning: a blueprint of things to  
come!