Re: gold hits $2,722 !

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:32:25 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:50:00 -0000, He Who Sees All  
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 12:33:42 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Nov 2024 03:51:56 -0000, He Who Sees All
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 05 Nov 2024 00:04:42 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Nov 2024 11:56:39 -0000, He Who Sees All
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 10:15:43 -0000, slider <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:55:37 -0000, He Who Sees All
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:44:42 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:36:54 +0100, He Who Sees All
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:53:42 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ### - hmmm... with gold hitting $2,700 it definitely looks like
>>>>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>> on the brink of a much wider conflict in the middle east, it  
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely that anything can stop it now short of iran being nuked
>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>> submission overnight... and because how else could such a vast
>>>>>>>>>>> nation
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly brought to it's knees otherwise without them wrecking
>>>>>>>>>>> israel
>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' the global economy in the process to boot??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and because all this 'talk' about hitting just their military
>>>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>>>> just wouldn't be enough to stop them launching just about
>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> have, which is rumoured to be around 150,000 rockets! only a 3rd
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> would literally flatten israel regardless of their iron dome!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i.e., just can't imagine israel (or the west) taking such a  
>>>>>>>>>>> risk??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so then methinks we've decided that iran has to go huh...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and it ain't gonna be pretty!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> oh boy...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slider, you're doom mongering again.  It won't happen.  No party
>>>>>>>>>> want's the global elites disrupted, let alone destroyed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ### - still in total denial of reality eh? (and that's why you  
>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> for info huh)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well no one really wanted ww1 & ww2 either thang, but they still
>>>>>>>>> happened!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Putin
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't want to lose his $200 bn fortune, his dachas, palaces  
>>>>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>> do the Russian oligarchs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ### - 30+ million russians died in ww2, do you think russia really
>>>>>>>>> 'wanted' that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no, things escalated beyond anyone's ability to choose and  
>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>> sucked into it, that's what a world war is!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The US billionaires don't want apocalypse,
>>>>>>>>>> nor do the Jews in Israel who have vast fortunes through their
>>>>>>>>>> contacts and networks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ### - what the 'west' wants (and that includes israel) is an end  
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> fundamentalist islam as a competing entity on the world stage, the
>>>>>>>>> seat
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> which resides in iran...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i.e., hammas is gone, lebanon is crippled, and iran's other
>>>>>>>>> satellites
>>>>>>>>> (like yemen and iraq) aren't powerful enough to make any  
>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> their own... the choice now on the table (for israel & the west)  
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> take iran down as well and thus end all this shia-shit once and  
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> all...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and they're genuinely thinking about doing it!!! (scary shit)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or do you really think they wont take advantage of the current
>>>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>>>> they themselves have engineered at such great expense??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Israel will not attack the oil or nuclear
>>>>>>>>>> sites and Iran will make token, but strong, reprisals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ### - that was last year, things have changed since then...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's gone beyond all that now and israel is effectively in an open
>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>> with iran fully backed by the west, both sides trying to kill each
>>>>>>>>> other's
>>>>>>>>> leaders ffs! (which is how ww1 started?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> incidentally, gold reached a record $2,740.91 on monday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then everyone will settle down.  There are more pressing  
>>>>>>>>>> problems,
>>>>>>>>>> such as accelerated climate change and loss of global fertility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ### - lol talk about wishful thinking? the question you 'should'  
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> asking, is 'how' is israel gonna emasculate iran without getting
>>>>>>>>> themselves destroyed in the process via an ever increasing
>>>>>>>>> tit-for-tat
>>>>>>>>> scenario!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i.e., israel is only a small nation and can't handle being pounded
>>>>>>>>> whereas
>>>>>>>>> iran is a vast country! even carpet bombing iran wouldn't have any
>>>>>>>>> effect
>>>>>>>>> on their ability to retaliate en-mass!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well imho there's only one way they could actually do it, and  
>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> level iran's capital(s) onetime when all their leaders are there,
>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>> iran can systematically destroy israel by firing 1000's of rockets
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> day after day until there's nada left, or so so much damage done  
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> can't function...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and israel simply can't afford to let that happen!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the west being only too happy to oblige coz they want iran out of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> as well...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and because iran, russia & china are the 3 final obstacles to
>>>>>>>>> western
>>>>>>>>> global domination, remember?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that's exactly what's happening sport...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and it's happening.... TODAY!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (or maybe tomorrow, but sooner now rather than later) for  
>>>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> thinking such weapons have possibly already been smuggled into and
>>>>>>>>> secreted in iran just waiting for a signal to set them off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> current chatter however is about whether russia will come to  
>>>>>>>>> iran's
>>>>>>>>> aid
>>>>>>>>> like they did syria that time coz then the whole world would be
>>>>>>>>> dragged
>>>>>>>>> into it 'regardless' of what anyone wants, whereas several small
>>>>>>>>> unannounced nukes would be impossible to reverse, with more deaths
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> hiroshima iran would be gone and there'd be nada russia could do
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> that would be worth doing...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so let's just hope they don't do that huh...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As usual, in the passage of time, I'm proven right and you're  
>>>>>>>> proven
>>>>>>>> wrong...again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here it is on 28 October, the Israeli strike has happened, no big
>>>>>>>> deal, acknowledged by Iran as very minor damage to some radar
>>>>>>>> installations on the fringe of Iran - and NADA from Iran.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because, Brian, the global balance will not be upset by either  
>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>> Gaza is a different story, no one cares, no one at all.  Nor is
>>>>>>>> Lebanon a big deal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Iran, and Israel, are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry mate, no global catastrophe this time and probably never.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a lovely day here in Perth, Western Australia - 32C today,
>>>>>>>> tomorrow to be 37C, in November around 40C, moving right up to a  
>>>>>>>> hot
>>>>>>>> summer around 45C or more to peak.  Lovin' life!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### - that's genuinely the closest we've ever come to it sport &  
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> over until the fat lady sings, plus methinks we were lucky there it
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> kick-off, israel not taking them out (this time) as expected,
>>>>>>> preferring
>>>>>>> to instead goad iran into retaliating, iran preferring to hold back
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> play the long game rather than risking the chance of looming
>>>>>>> annihilation
>>>>>>> at both israel and america's hand, they actually backed down! (quite
>>>>>>> surprising really)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> israel can't, of course, just settle for that nor leave things  
>>>>>>> there,
>>>>>>> iran's not gonna go away and is only back to biding its time while
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> repairs, a window that wont remain open for long if israel wants to  
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> farther before they make those repairs... cue then more goading!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> failing iran being drawn-into that, there's nada now stopping iran
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> developing a nuclear warhead (if they haven't already) and israel
>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>> that, so something decisive will still have to be done before it  
>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>> to that point...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-developing-nuclear-bomb-stockpile-to-destroy-israel-netanyahu-6894868
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thus excuses will have to be made/generated to take iran down one  
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> the other, iran apparently not being as stupid as it looks agreeing
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> that the scores are even again, although in reality they've been  
>>>>>>> badly
>>>>>>> damaged by this last attack in the eyes of the rest of the world and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> own people, their last hope now being to nuke israel at some later
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> versus israel's hardly gonna wait until that happens, this creating
>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>> another window that wont remain open forever, iran in the corner
>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>> rope-a-dope wont work either...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in the meantime, however, the world has dodged yet another serious
>>>>>>> flashpoint/bullet, for sure no one wants it, but also for sure is  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>> that both sides are never gonna stop until something resolves one  
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> the other, plus also for sure is that iran wont just die without a
>>>>>>> fight
>>>>>>> either...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so it's still all on the cards sport, we just don't know now how or
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> is all...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i.e., presumably, israel will now go heavy on iran's satellites and
>>>>>>> proxy
>>>>>>> leaders hoping iran will respond with something that justifies  
>>>>>>> israel
>>>>>>> hitting them again, that the goading will thus continue even harder
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> before, a win-win situation for israel either way as iran appears
>>>>>>> increasingly weak for not retaliating ever-harder as they
>>>>>>> threatened...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iran is surely aware of all this, however, so why they didn't go
>>>>>>> all-in
>>>>>>> this last time is surprising, the west called their bluff and they
>>>>>>> backed
>>>>>>> down on what might have been their last chance to really damage
>>>>>>> israel:
>>>>>>> they bottled-out of it! (very surprising!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.mei.edu/blog/weekly-briefing-following-israeli-counterstrike-iran-region-appears-pull-back-brink
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the west will, however, have to make sure they're no longer a threat
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> ain't gonna stop pounding on iran now until they either surrender
>>>>>>> completely or go down in some final blaze of glory, so it's all only
>>>>>>> delayed/not over yet old bean... their blaze of glory option is
>>>>>>> rapidly
>>>>>>> fading, however, in which case it looks like the remaining muslim
>>>>>>> nations
>>>>>>> will all be slowly rounded-up and metaphorically kept on controlled
>>>>>>> reservations like the native americans were...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this was their last chance/hope and they blew it, they're basically
>>>>>>> screwed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this making russia & china up next then huh ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today the Supreme Ruler in Iran commented that there will be a
>>>>>> retaliation and it will "shatter their teeth" or somesuch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, another step up the ladder if it does happen, and if it does, it
>>>>>> evidently will in the next 2 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would think if US interests are to be struck, then right in the  
>>>>>> guts
>>>>>> of election day would be a good time to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> ### - am just surprised they's draggin' it out this long? perhaps for
>>>>> israel to have public opinion more on their side when iran maybe hits
>>>>> something more important to them than just open fields and the
>>>>> occasional
>>>>> car park, the 'justification' for reducing iran to nada perhaps not
>>>>> being
>>>>> quite there yet in the minds of the rest of the arab world, who will
>>>>> then
>>>>> later comfort themselves by claiming that iran only brought it on
>>>>> themselves, kinda thing...
>>>>>
>>>>> surely iran realises tho' that this is prolly their last chance and  
>>>>> that
>>>>> they're unlikely to get another, so it 'could' get more interesting  
>>>>> yet
>>>>> as
>>>>> the time for 'token' hits has already passed, and because if they  
>>>>> don't
>>>>> go
>>>>> all-in this time then the west surely will and iran will be gone back  
>>>>> to
>>>>> the stone age overnight lest they be allowed to do too much damage...
>>>>>
>>>>> unless, of course, that 'damage' is useful in some way to western
>>>>> interests ;)
>>>>
>>>> Western interests have just radically changed in all ways with Trump's
>>>> ascension.  He despises Iran and adores the jews, loves hard men of
>>>> Bibi's style, so things will change after January.  In the meantime,
>>>> we have that useless, dribbling mess of a loser lame duck Biden barely
>>>> able to hold the reins with his palsied hands - he won't do a fucking
>>>> thing, too stupid and too old.  Weak as piss.
>>>>
>>>> He may, however, in his waning few months, give Ukraine the ability to
>>>> hit Russia hard and deep with long range missiles before Trump takes
>>>> power.  Who knows?
>>>>
>>>> I'll be sitting back with popcorn (figuratively) and beer watching the
>>>> lovely chaos unfold.  Won't affect me in the least.
>>>
>>> ### - whatever america does always affects the rest of the planet, the
>>> credit crunch started there, austerity started there, shit trickles down
>>> ya know? :)))
>>>
>>> he didn't even win via some sudden surge towards trump-ism, but by 13.5
>>> million voters who previously voted for biden not bothering to vote at
>>> all, such mass apathy putting that idiot back in office without any
>>> restraints whatsoever lol, even after all the shit that went down before
>>> about him being impeached twice, convicted of several felonies, fined
>>> millions for sex abuse & outright lies, drummed out of new york for
>>> questionable business practices, trying to rig the election, getting the
>>> capitol building stormed by armed mobs, etc, etc, etc, etc...
>>>
>>> and what do they do? did they learn anything from history and vote for
>>> some kinda sanity??
>>>
>>> nope, after firing his ass from the job the first time they put the  
>>> fucker
>>> BACK into power with no restraints upon him whatsoever LOL, and THIS  
>>> time
>>> he's pissed-off!
>>>
>>> and THAT'S completely... INSANE!!! :D
>>>
>>> in which case am inclined to think they rather deserve anything they get
>>> huh, they really do, only i also know/realise that they're all basically
>>> damaged goods with no real lives to call their own, that they don't
>>> actually know what they're doing!
>>>
>>> 'slaves' perforce having no other real recourse than to vote for their
>>> master every time, no matter how despotic or cruel that master might  
>>> be...
>>> that humanity is very damaged/disabled in that sense, effectively  
>>> crawling
>>> along on their bellies in the shit; they're certainly not free like they
>>> love to imagine! all that's just bs in their heads!
>>>
>>> sigh, no matter 'how' hard i try i just can't see them surviving, ya  
>>> know?
>>>
>>> coz they haven't got anything going for them and there's no one to even
>>> look after them!
>>>
>>> added to which, they're all a bit thick innit haha: as dumb as a bucket  
>>> of
>>> rocks ;)
>>>
>>> it's hard not to feel sorry for 'em knowing it ain't gonna be at all  
>>> easy
>>> for them...
>>>
>>> all that crap in gaza being only the beginning: a blueprint of things to
>>> come!
>>
>> The vast majority of Americans are stupid as a box of rocks.  They
>> will now get the government they all so richly deserve.  Don't stress,
>> it won't concern you too much either, it's the fucking yanks who are
>> gonna get drilled up the arse by this fella...:)
>>
>> Grab a beverage of your choice, sit back, open the popcorn, and watch
>> America go down the tubes.  Lol.
>
>### - it's not just america, or americans though is it, it's everyone...
>
>i.e., america's merely the current best example of human society and how  
>advanced (or not) it all is... america is humanity's flagship!
>
>which, let's face it, is a pretty piss-poor and dismal example lol :)))
>
>coz is that 'really' the best we can do, the best we've gots??
>
>the election fiasco just revealing what a pile of shit it all is, even  
>more!?
>
>actually 'highlighting' it LOL ! :D
>
>but it all seems quite normal to them huh...
>
>little do they realise, however, that we're gonna be punished for having  
>embarrassed the fucker before, coz he's nursing quite a deep grudge ya  
>know and has mentioned 'revenge' several times, it just kinda  
>inadvertently slipping-out a few times, but that's what's coming for sure  
>oh boy... and with him being totally fucking insane we just don't know how  
>far he's likely gonna push that agenda!
>
>e.g., can ya remember the several 'executions' he authorised just before  
>his last term came to an end? it was actually a very strange vibe to  
>invoke/evoke in the populace, completely unnecessary, expressing the  
>complete opposite of compassion?? i even mentioned it at the time coz imho  
>it was actually a bit kinky/twisted, a: let's chuck another body on the  
>fire kinda vibe and everyone cheered? (it actually made my skin crawl and  
>that's not good...)
>
>and so NOW what we gots, in the white house, to all extents & purposes the  
>central hub and humanity's guiding light in the world, is the modern  
>equivalent of 'Caligula' running the whole fuckin' show LOL !!! (and he's  
>already made his fav. horse musk into a senator lol)
>
>as to them/us deserving it all... i personally think we (humanity i mean)  
>could've done better, we could have learned from our mistakes instead of  
>compounding them, we could have grown-up a little instead of becoming even  
>more retarded, we could have voted for a better world instead of one  
>filled with just more violence, revenge and abject division...
>
>put it this way: the loonies just made 'Miss Ratchet' the president of the  
>asylum!
>
>everyone head for the hills lol :)))


Haha, well put, and accurate to boot.

Hitler had his "Night of the Long Knives" when he despatched his
numerous enemies, real and imagined, including such good comrades as
Rohm & his cohort.  Trump will also have his night of the long knives,
he and his buddies are already naming those who are going to go down,
deep deep down, when he takes the reins.

Americans are gonna get it up the arse, big time.  They are far too
stupid and cowardly to even have any idea of what's coming at them
like a train :)

Like I said, don't stress.  It will make for great entertainment, you
on the other side of the pond, me about as far away as one can get
from where the fuse is about to be lit...

By the way, great move by Biden to permit Ukraine to hit deep inside
Russia with American missiles.  Defuse that one, Donald, you Putin
loving snake.

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