Re: gold hits $2,722 !

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### - hmmm... with gold hitting $2,700 it definitely looks
like
we're
now
on the brink of a much wider conflict in the middle east, it
being
unlikely that anything can stop it now short of iran being
nuked
into
submission overnight... and because how else could such a
vast
nation
be
suddenly brought to it's knees otherwise without them
wrecking
israel
'and' the global economy in the process to boot??

and because all this 'talk' about hitting just their
military
sites
etc
just wouldn't be enough to stop them launching just about
everything
they
have, which is rumoured to be around 150,000 rockets! only a
3rd
of
which
would literally flatten israel regardless of their iron
dome!

i.e., just can't imagine israel (or the west) taking such a
risk??

so then methinks we've decided that iran has to go huh...

and it ain't gonna be pretty!

oh boy...

Slider, you're doom mongering again.  It won't happen.  No
party
want's the global elites disrupted, let alone destroyed.

### - still in total denial of reality eh? (and that's why you
come
to
me
for info huh)

well no one really wanted ww1 & ww2 either thang, but they
still
happened!



Putin
doesn't want to lose his $200 bn fortune, his dachas, palaces
etc,
nor
do the Russian oligarchs.

### - 30+ million russians died in ww2, do you think russia
really
'wanted' that?

no, things escalated beyond anyone's ability to choose and
everyone
got
sucked into it, that's what a world war is!




The US billionaires don't want apocalypse,
nor do the Jews in Israel who have vast fortunes through
their
contacts and networks.

### - what the 'west' wants (and that includes israel) is an
end
to
fundamentalist islam as a competing entity on the world stage,
the
seat
of
which resides in iran...

i.e., hammas is gone, lebanon is crippled, and iran's other
satellites
(like yemen and iraq) aren't powerful enough to make any
difference
on
their own... the choice now on the table (for israel & the
west)
is
to
take iran down as well and thus end all this shia-shit once
and
for
all...

and they're genuinely thinking about doing it!!! (scary shit)

or do you really think they wont take advantage of the current
opportunity
they themselves have engineered at such great expense??



Israel will not attack the oil or nuclear
sites and Iran will make token, but strong, reprisals.

### - that was last year, things have changed since then...

it's gone beyond all that now and israel is effectively in an
open
war
with iran fully backed by the west, both sides trying to kill
each
other's
leaders ffs! (which is how ww1 started?)

incidentally, gold reached a record $2,740.91 on monday.



Then everyone will settle down.  There are more pressing
problems,
such as accelerated climate change and loss of global
fertility.

### - lol talk about wishful thinking? the question you
'should'
be
asking, is 'how' is israel gonna emasculate iran without
getting
themselves destroyed in the process via an ever increasing
tit-for-tat
scenario!

i.e., israel is only a small nation and can't handle being
pounded
whereas
iran is a vast country! even carpet bombing iran wouldn't have
any
effect
on their ability to retaliate en-mass!

well imho there's only one way they could actually do it, and
that's
to
level iran's capital(s) onetime when all their leaders are
there,
else
iran can systematically destroy israel by firing 1000's of
rockets
into
it
day after day until there's nada left, or so so much damage
done
to
it
it
can't function...

and israel simply can't afford to let that happen!

the west being only too happy to oblige coz they want iran out
of
the
way
as well...

and because iran, russia & china are the 3 final obstacles to
western
global domination, remember?

that's exactly what's happening sport...

and it's happening.... TODAY!

(or maybe tomorrow, but sooner now rather than later) for
instance,
am
thinking such weapons have possibly already been smuggled into
and
secreted in iran just waiting for a signal to set them off

current chatter however is about whether russia will come to
iran's
aid
like they did syria that time coz then the whole world would
be
dragged
into it 'regardless' of what anyone wants, whereas several
small
unannounced nukes would be impossible to reverse, with more
deaths
than
hiroshima iran would be gone and there'd be nada russia could
do
about
it
that would be worth doing...

so let's just hope they don't do that huh...

As usual, in the passage of time, I'm proven right and you're
proven
wrong...again.

Here it is on 28 October, the Israeli strike has happened, no
big
deal, acknowledged by Iran as very minor damage to some radar
installations on the fringe of Iran - and NADA from Iran.

Because, Brian, the global balance will not be upset by either
state.
Gaza is a different story, no one cares, no one at all.  Nor is
Lebanon a big deal.

But Iran, and Israel, are.

Sorry mate, no global catastrophe this time and probably never.

It's a lovely day here in Perth, Western Australia - 32C today,
tomorrow to be 37C, in November around 40C, moving right up to
a
hot
summer around 45C or more to peak.  Lovin' life!

### - that's genuinely the closest we've ever come to it sport &
it's
not
over until the fat lady sings, plus methinks we were lucky there
it
didn't
kick-off, israel not taking them out (this time) as expected,
preferring
to instead goad iran into retaliating, iran preferring to hold
back
and
play the long game rather than risking the chance of looming
annihilation
at both israel and america's hand, they actually backed down!
(quite
surprising really)

israel can't, of course, just settle for that nor leave things
there,
iran's not gonna go away and is only back to biding its time
while
doing
repairs, a window that wont remain open for long if israel wants
to
go
any
farther before they make those repairs... cue then more goading!

failing iran being drawn-into that, there's nada now stopping
iran
from
developing a nuclear warhead (if they haven't already) and
israel
knows
that, so something decisive will still have to be done before it
ever
gets
to that point...

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-developing-nuclear-bomb-stockpile-to-destroy-israel-netanyahu-6894868

thus excuses will have to be made/generated to take iran down
one
way
or
the other, iran apparently not being as stupid as it looks
agreeing
now
that the scores are even again, although in reality they've been
badly
damaged by this last attack in the eyes of the rest of the world
and
their
own people, their last hope now being to nuke israel at some
later
point
versus israel's hardly gonna wait until that happens, this
creating
yet
another window that wont remain open forever, iran in the corner
playing
rope-a-dope wont work either...

in the meantime, however, the world has dodged yet another
serious
flashpoint/bullet, for sure no one wants it, but also for sure
is
the
fact
that both sides are never gonna stop until something resolves
one
way
or
the other, plus also for sure is that iran wont just die
without a
fight
either...

so it's still all on the cards sport, we just don't know now how
or
when
is all...

i.e., presumably, israel will now go heavy on iran's satellites
and
proxy
leaders hoping iran will respond with something that justifies
israel
hitting them again, that the goading will thus continue even
harder
than
before, a win-win situation for israel either way as iran
appears
increasingly weak for not retaliating ever-harder as they
threatened...

iran is surely aware of all this, however, so why they didn't go
all-in
this last time is surprising, the west called their bluff and
they
backed
down on what might have been their last chance to really damage
israel:
they bottled-out of it! (very surprising!)

https://www.mei.edu/blog/weekly-briefing-following-israeli-counterstrike-iran-region-appears-pull-back-brink

the west will, however, have to make sure they're no longer a
threat
so
it
ain't gonna stop pounding on iran now until they either
surrender
completely or go down in some final blaze of glory, so it's all
only
delayed/not over yet old bean... their blaze of glory option is
rapidly
fading, however, in which case it looks like the remaining
muslim
nations
will all be slowly rounded-up and metaphorically kept on
controlled
reservations like the native americans were...

this was their last chance/hope and they blew it, they're
basically
screwed...

this making russia & china up next then huh

Today the Supreme Ruler in Iran commented that there will be a
retaliation and it will "shatter their teeth" or somesuch.

So, another step up the ladder if it does happen, and if it does,
it
evidently will in the next 2 days.

I would think if US interests are to be struck, then right in the
guts
of election day would be a good time to do so.

### - am just surprised they's draggin' it out this long? perhaps
for
israel to have public opinion more on their side when iran maybe
hits
something more important to them than just open fields and the
occasional
car park, the 'justification' for reducing iran to nada perhaps
not
being
quite there yet in the minds of the rest of the arab world, who
will
then
later comfort themselves by claiming that iran only brought it on
themselves, kinda thing...

surely iran realises tho' that this is prolly their last chance
and
that
they're unlikely to get another, so it 'could' get more
interesting
yet
as
the time for 'token' hits has already passed, and because if they
don't
go
all-in this time then the west surely will and iran will be gone
back
to
the stone age overnight lest they be allowed to do too much
damage...

unless, of course, that 'damage' is useful in some way to western
interests

Western interests have just radically changed in all ways with
Trump's
ascension.  He despises Iran and adores the jews, loves hard men of
Bibi's style, so things will change after January.  In the
meantime,
we have that useless, dribbling mess of a loser lame duck Biden
barely
able to hold the reins with his palsied hands - he won't do a
fucking
thing, too stupid and too old.  Weak as piss.

He may, however, in his waning few months, give Ukraine the ability
to
hit Russia hard and deep with long range missiles before Trump
takes
power.  Who knows?

I'll be sitting back with popcorn (figuratively) and beer watching
the
lovely chaos unfold.  Won't affect me in the least.

### - whatever america does always affects the rest of the planet,
the
credit crunch started there, austerity started there, shit trickles
down
ya know? :)))

he didn't even win via some sudden surge towards trump-ism, but by
13.5
million voters who previously voted for biden not bothering to vote
at
all, such mass apathy putting that idiot back in office without any
restraints whatsoever lol, even after all the shit that went down
before
about him being impeached twice, convicted of several felonies,
fined
millions for sex abuse & outright lies, drummed out of new york for
questionable business practices, trying to rig the election, getting
the
capitol building stormed by armed mobs, etc, etc, etc, etc...

and what do they do? did they learn anything from history and vote
for
some kinda sanity??

nope, after firing his ass from the job the first time they put the
fucker
BACK into power with no restraints upon him whatsoever LOL, and THIS
time
he's pissed-off!

and THAT'S completely... INSANE!!!

in which case am inclined to think they rather deserve anything they
get
huh, they really do, only i also know/realise that they're all
basically
damaged goods with no real lives to call their own, that they don't
actually know what they're doing!

'slaves' perforce having no other real recourse than to vote for
their
master every time, no matter how despotic or cruel that master might
be...
that humanity is very damaged/disabled in that sense, effectively
crawling
along on their bellies in the shit; they're certainly not free like
they
love to imagine! all that's just bs in their heads!

sigh, no matter 'how' hard i try i just can't see them surviving, ya
know?

coz they haven't got anything going for them and there's no one to
even
look after them!

added to which, they're all a bit thick innit haha: as dumb as a
bucket
of
rocks

it's hard not to feel sorry for 'em knowing it ain't gonna be at all
easy
for them...

all that crap in gaza being only the beginning: a blueprint of
things
to
come!

The vast majority of Americans are stupid as a box of rocks.  They
will now get the government they all so richly deserve.  Don't
stress,
it won't concern you too much either, it's the fucking yanks who are
gonna get drilled up the arse by this fella...:)

Grab a beverage of your choice, sit back, open the popcorn, and watch
America go down the tubes.  Lol.

### - it's not just america, or americans though is it, it's
everyone...

i.e., america's merely the current best example of human society and
how
advanced (or not) it all is... america is humanity's flagship!

which, let's face it, is a pretty piss-poor and dismal example lol
:)))

coz is that 'really' the best we can do, the best we've gots??

the election fiasco just revealing what a pile of shit it all is, even
more!?

actually 'highlighting' it LOL !

but it all seems quite normal to them huh...

little do they realise, however, that we're gonna be punished for
having
embarrassed the fucker before, coz he's nursing quite a deep grudge ya
know and has mentioned 'revenge' several times, it just kinda
inadvertently slipping-out a few times, but that's what's coming for
sure
oh boy... and with him being totally fucking insane we just don't know
how
far he's likely gonna push that agenda!

e.g., can ya remember the several 'executions' he authorised just
before
his last term came to an end? it was actually a very strange vibe to
invoke/evoke in the populace, completely unnecessary, expressing the
complete opposite of compassion?? i even mentioned it at the time coz
imho
it was actually a bit kinky/twisted, a: let's chuck another body on
the
fire kinda vibe and everyone cheered? (it actually made my skin crawl
and
that's not good...)

and so NOW what we gots, in the white house, to all extents & purposes
the
central hub and humanity's guiding light in the world, is the modern
equivalent of 'Caligula' running the whole fuckin' show LOL !!! (and
he's
already made his fav. horse musk into a senator lol)

as to them/us deserving it all... i personally think we (humanity i
mean)
could've done better, we could have learned from our mistakes instead
of
compounding them, we could have grown-up a little instead of becoming
even
more retarded, we could have voted for a better world instead of one
filled with just more violence, revenge and abject division...

put it this way: the loonies just made 'Miss Ratchet' the president of
the
asylum!

everyone head for the hills lol :)))


Haha, well put, and accurate to boot.

Hitler had his "Night of the Long Knives" when he despatched his
numerous enemies, real and imagined, including such good comrades as
Rohm & his cohort.  Trump will also have his night of the long knives,
he and his buddies are already naming those who are going to go down,
deep deep down, when he takes the reins.

Americans are gonna get it up the arse, big time.  They are far too
stupid and cowardly to even have any idea of what's coming at them
like a train

Like I said, don't stress.  It will make for great entertainment, you
on the other side of the pond, me about as far away as one can get
 from where the fuse is about to be lit...

By the way, great move by Biden to permit Ukraine to hit deep inside
Russia with American missiles.  Defuse that one, Donald, you Putin
loving snake.

### - lol night of the long knives is right, is spot-on! plus let's see
if
he's not out to trump stalin's 'terror' for doing exactly that lol...
and
coz everyone who stood in his way before (judges, politicians,
everyone!)
have all long since gone!

a bunch of obsequious arse-lickers/kissers being what we're all gonna be
exposed to next haha, even internationally hah! you're either with him
or
against him in his reductive view of the world...

biden merely handing trump an extra bargaining chip when it comes to
russia with those missiles, the 5% surface-difference existing between
them, both in terms of personality and even their respective politics,
being meaningless compared to the 95% business-as-usual that
continues/progresses relentlessly behind the scenes regardless of
whomever's in office at the time (call me cynical but that's what
history
suggests)

but for a little time, anyway, they can throw some heavier shit at
russia
and blame it all on biden who wont be there anymore to hit back at, see?
meanwhile russia will no doubt retaliate some, and then that can be used
to further blacken their name/demonise 'em, thereby justifying anything
we
might wanna do to them next...

but it's gonna be islam/iran that gets it first huh, as an entity
they're
already badly wounded and it wouldn't take much more to finish them
off/set them back decades! (it would already take 100+ years to rebuild
gaza for instance...)

it IS gonna be interesting, but also very brutal and cruel...

and i've never found either of those entertaining.

Interestingly, a local article (Sydney Morning Herald) talks of the
world now being a camp of herbivores under threat of a herd of
carnivores - the herbivores are no longer under the shelter of the US,
and haven't been for quite a while.

### - it's always been a world of carnivores preying on the herbivores,
it's an intrinsic part of nature's arms-race to intelligence, the human
race being the baddest carnivore of them all: the end result of
evolution's arms-race to awareness and intelligence...

IF they can live long enough they might even become wise...

You're straying from the present.  We, both you and I, were originally
talking about what's happening now.  The future is unknown and the
past carved in rock, called by some "history".

The current world is composed of the western axis and the impoverished
third world threateners who are frustrated by the grip the first world
(us) has on global resources.  Putin, Xi, Kim, the fucking Supreme
Leader (Seig Heil!) - what a mob of evil, lurking scumbags.

Stick with the subject Brian.

### - you're dropping the ball here? - 'you' brought-up the subject of  
carnivores/herbivores re, and via, SMH's comments, and am responding  
directly to that by saying/suggesting it's nothing new, that it's always  
been that way on this planet, that 'intelligence' is the direct result of  
evolution's carnivores versus herbivores game, each set evolving  
separately to keep the game going: the prey set developing ever greater,  
more effective, defenses wherein only the fittest survive, while the  
predator set develops ever greater skills in defeating those defenses,  
it's nature's arms-race that originates with, and when, multicellular  
organisms suddenly put in an appearance, which experts on the subject  
agree is 'how' and 'why' intelligence ultimately evolved...

and yes, we're still talking about 'now' and the current state of the  
world, but we can't just forget how the world has arrived in it's current  
situation, said current situation not just appearing over night out of the  
blue, it evolved over many years to get to where it is right now, it has a  
known 'history' that has clearly led-up to the current situation




The carnivores are Russia, China, NK and Iran.  Iran will soon be
scratched and none of the other three will come to its aid.  However,
the other 3 are nuclear powers and they are on the prowl...

### - the SMH is clearly just doing their romantic-best & part to
support/promote the current "Hate Hour" (from Orwell's 1984): to identify
the 'enemy' and to demonise them in the public mind...

Late breaking news:  Putin threatens London with MIRV'd ICBM attack. I
think, Brian, that Putin and his evil ilk are doing well enough
demonising themselves, without any help from the SMH or anyone else

### - have you not read orwell's 1984, or seen the films made of it?

in one of the scenes there's something called "The Hate Hour", a  
nation-wide televised hour in which everyone stops what they're doing to  
collectively and very enthusiastically hate 'the enemy' lol, up on huge  
public tv screens there's the face of the leader of 'the enemy', saying  
they don't want war, that they want peace and an end to war, that  
negotiations should commence etc, etc, while the gathered watching crowd  
below scream, shouts and ridicule him... and what am saying/suggesting is  
that the SMH is just doing exactly the same thing in that sense, are  
merely doing their part to keep the public hatred going at the currently  
identified 'enemy', are having their very own hate-hour and thus  
reinforcing the current party-line via a series of evolving lies about  
that enemy...

e.g., the west allows ukraine to start using their longer range weapons, a  
clear escalation similar to when they gave them tanks and f15's, heavier  
weapons/items that effectively ups the ante, and when russia responds  
in-kind in order to adjust to the now increased tension of the situation,  
the west accuses 'them' of raising the stakes, of escalating the situation  
like they suddenly did that completely out of the blue for no reason??

no thang, there's an element of cause & effect here, one side escalates  
and the other side is forced to respond in kind in order to maintain the  
status quo!




there being only one intelligent way to deal with such blatant propaganda
being rammed down our throats, and that's to simply reverse it haha... the
complete reverse actually being closer to the truth than the way they're
always presenting/portraying it... the US being the actual carnivore in
that scenario, everyone else just fighting to survive...

But what does all your blabber really mean?  You don't like the
British welfare state?  You're unhappy with the price of apples?  Are
you saying you would prefer to LIVE in Russia, Iran, NK or China?

Is that what you are saying?  A simple yes or no will suffice (but you
won't do that, you won't commit, you're far too brilliant for that...)

### - lol that's NOT what am saying! you're putting words in my mouth haha  
:)))

what am saying (still in context) is that the SMH is merely part & parcel  
of the state propaganda machine, an extension of it, and now here it is  
bashing its readers over the head with a pile a deliberately misleading,  
almost romantic, bs... the same bs all the other western media outlets are  
currently putting out as well about 'the enemy', their own little  
smh-contribution being to draw a comparison between carnivores/herbivores,  
with the 'enemy' perforce being the carnivore, when in truth - if/when we  
examine things from the pov of history - it's all actually the reverse of  
what we're being instructed to think and to believe... and that what am  
'giving' you is a means to 'see-through' all that bs via the application  
of a very simple principle: reversal!

for example: if, in the time of galileo, people had simply 'reversed' what  
they were being told to believe about the sun orbiting the earth, they  
would have actually been far closer to the Truth of the matter than what  
they did believe! and i'm simply suggesting that this same principle can  
still be applied today, possibly for nearly everything people have been  
told to believe! that the 'reverse' of what people believe is more  
'likely' to be correct in many instances! especially when it comes to  
propaganda!

(see, it's not blather, i was just adding a bit more to it, all within the  
same smh context)




try it and see heh, everything makes far more sense if/when ya turn it all
around to face the other way, just like the sun orbiting the earth was
literally 180-degrees out of whack and yet that's what everyone was forced
to believe upon pain of public strangulation/death

No idea what you're talking about.

### - but you do now, right? i.e., am suggesting that 'one' way to  
see-through all the bs and propaganda is by a process of applied  
reversal... which doesn't work in 'every' instance for 'everything', but  
is still a bloody good gauge/tool to use on occasion... 'try it and see'  
being an invitation to try applying such reversals yourself (am not  
saying/suggesting to absolutely/blindly believe anything, only to contrast  
& compare and then you've got at least 2 opposing pov's to work with, one  
pov on it's own being like only ever seeing/examining things from one  
direction only, a pov that may or may not be correct, as such one has to  
be deliberately objective or risk forgetting what you're doing...




Macron and your guy (Starmer) are waking up to reality and becoming,
at the least, omnivores.

### - oh c'mon get it right... the uk was the great carnivore of old, no?

I'm sticking with the present, the world you and I live in.  Nothing
else really matters.  The past is history.  You may as well talk about
Genghis Khan and his mountains of skulls, or Hitler and his ovens, or
Turkey and the Armenians.  The Romans and practically everyone...

Let's talk about the world WE inhabit.

### - i am! the uk USED to be the master of the world no? the british  
empire and all that? a genuine fucking monster on the world stage for  
which it's still apologising today lol, thus the smh's misleading bs about  
the poor old uk being a helpless herbivore being picked-on by a carnivore  
'enemy' etc, is totally misleading crap! the uk is the 'previous' ruler of  
the known world! the past carnivore wolf who's now a pet of the current,  
even more massive/brutal ruling power: america!

this being an instance wherein reversal actually reveals the truth!




the fact that we're now only the fav lap-dog of america (one of 'em heh)
only revealing the sheer power & might of the US currently! tony blair
that time playing the role of grand vizier to the ruling masters of the
world, all of europe in the direct control 'of' those masters as evidenced
by a so-called military & economic alliance, and all currently at-war with
the last of the hold-outs, such as russia, is no coincidence...

Russia is a "hold-out"?  That's an unusual way to paint naked
aggression and the killing of men, women and children throughout
soveriegn Ukraine.  Even Staliln realised that Ukraine needed to be a
separate unit to Russia, as did all of the successors, until that flat
faced cunt Putin came along...

### - yes, russia's a hold-out in that sense, as is iran and china...  
i.e., they don't want to be part of western ideology's rule of law or  
capitalism, they claim to have their own, fairly successful systems...  
only that's not good enough for the west, the west doesn't want to share  
anything, it wants the whole thing as the only way of ultimately feeling  
secure, and thus everything we see today, in fact every war on the planet  
to date, is, and has been, the direct result of the west's drive to empire  
the world...

iow: we've (the west i mean) caused ALL the wars and then always BLAMED  
those wars on 'the enemy' - the enemy being anyone who wont join the club!  
70+ years of demonising russia now has everyone believing they're  
responsible for all the trouble when actually the reverse is true and  
russia just wants to be left alone, ditto china...

e.g., we give ukraine more powerful weapons and when russia responds we  
accuse 'them' of escalating the situation, see how it works?




You might be feeling Putin very soon in your neighborhood, air raid
sirens followed by very bright second suns, you'll have just enough
time to admire the flash as the universe around you explodes and you
are atomised and rising towards the stratosphere...

### - there's no need to get so morbid heh, the uk/europe would be just  
the first ones to get it, everywhere else would then follow including oz  
because oz is one of the west's important outposts and strategic nuclear  
listening posts, oz sold-out to the west a long time back/has always been  
it's little slave, it was created by the monster/british empire ffs!




Germany is as usual a pitiful wreck with lots
of baggage still from WW2.  Poland has balls, so do the three Baltics,
and Italy - well, it's Italy, one forward gear, 5 reverse.

Australia down here is full of resources, one of the wealthiest
countries per capita on the face of the earth.  Ripe for the picking?
There are a lot of islands between us and China, and we are (or were)
good friends with the US.  But we too need to develop our own means,
and soon.

### - you've gotta be kidding no? australia will never be independent,
ever, and only retains the seeming independence they 'appear' to have for
as long as they pull their weight, that SMH article being the equivalent
of oz rubbing itself, cat-like, against the leg of america in the most
blatantly obsequious manner: we love youuu america... please feed us and
protect us from the big bad wolf lol... are they really THAT naive?? :)))

Jealous much, Brian?  lol

### - not at all... have told you before, many times, that am a dog of no  
nation thang, i just so happened to have been born here so you wont find  
we waving any flags or supporting any 'teams', am an outsider for real, a  
cuckoo born in some strangers nest, i don't belong, have never belonged,  
am only passing-through in that sense, a stranger looking-on at what  
appears to be a god-awful unholy mess called planet earth lol... a pile of  
shite so big and sooo high ya can't see the feckin' end of it in any  
direction hah, and WHAT a pile of shite it is huh? lol you couldn't make  
this shit up! we've turned this whole world into one massive shithole and  
are actually proud of it - look what we've dun! we dun did that! - what  
time's gladiators on honey, are we missin' it??




if oz genuinely wanted to be independent they could, for example, tell the
US to remove all their nuclear crap from their soil and sign-up to the
growing BRICs accord, oz would soon then see the pile of shite that would
soon land on them from the west to make them conform...

I said we need to be independent, not we are independent.  Then again,
I guess the nuclear deterrent held by the UK hasn't really deterred
Putin from threatening to kill you, your relatives and everyone you
have ever known along with everything else in London and elsewhere in
your little island.

### - oz DOES indeed need to be independent, just like everyone does, but  
never will be for the reasons already stated... oz isn't 'allowed' to be  
independent anymore than your abbo's are allowed to be independent,  
anymore than the native americans (or blacks) are allowed to be  
independent either! in wallyworld one is either with 'em or against 'em on  
this monkey-minded planet - that's how they think



Unlike you, who has never been to Australia, I've visited London so my
views of your town are more valid than yours of mine.  I've been to
the British Museum, it is fantastic, especially the stolen Egyptian
artifacts guarding the doorway

And, I've eaten Nandos there before it became a massive thing.

### - afaic oz is no different to anywhere else, it's got a different  
accent and slightly different cultural mannerisms, and defo better  
weather, you can dress it up any way ya want but it's the same old  
shit-show as anywhere else in the western world, your smh being no  
different in message terms than any other western media outlet worldwide:  
all putting out completely one-sided information, they even went so far as  
to ban RT here in the uk lol + so much then for freedom of the press huh:  
another lie!




no, that ain't EVER gonna happen thang, never in a million years will oz
be free!



As for Trump, it's right, the system is entrenched in the US for
centuries, Trump will make a splash and a few waves and then it will
be business as usual.  The swamp will end up draining him...

### - he IS the swamp lol: a physical manifestation OF it in-action no
less!!!

smile, saw a cartoon on FB the other day... of a ravenous looking wolf
preaching/electioneering to a packed crowd of sheep, saying: "if you vote
for me i'll immediately become a vegetarian!"

lol, and they's ALL gonna believe it aren't they haha!

whoo-hoo he's gonna make us all great again!!!!!

riiiiiiiight :)))))

(remember him waving a bible in one hand while the police
brutalised/gassed a crowd of peaceful american protesters that time
outside some church? that's a clear pic of who he 'really' is and what we
can expect, caligula indeed: which all ended very badly for caligula coz
he was a total nutjob: a Tyrant! and they've already tried to shoot the
fucker twice...)

He's a 79 year old old man, who will be 83 when and if he finishes
this term.

Reminds me of the fucking cannibal who ran Rhodesia/Zimbabwe until he
packed it in close to a hundred years old.

### - well imho, if 'anyone' can 'really' fuck this planet up a good bit  
more, and do it quickly too, it's him! in fact methinks we'll be lucky if  
there's a world left after he's gone...

am thinking 50/50 it goes either way?