Re: Meher Baba and MADman was: Re: Grounding of hyper states of consciousness

On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 15:01:36 -0000, Venus as a boy  =

<[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 05.12.2024 um 11:54 schrieb Venus as a boy:
>> I was always fascinated by Biathlon athlets when they after a long  =

>> cross-country skiing distance came to the shooting ranges and before =
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>> shooting the targets absolutely slowing their breath and pulse in a f=
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>> seconds down to precisly shoot the targets.
>> Compared to expanded or as i say buzzing consciousness where your min=
d  =

>> consciousness (like a psydoc said sz is like a brain marathon) or you=
r  =

>> heart consciousness or whatever consciousness center (according to  =

>> spiritual religious philosophy most humans have multiple consciousnes=
s  =

>> centers) is in an uproar and like i experienced e.g. today you can wi=
th  =

>> breathing techniques or even meditation (not kundalini which is the  =

>> opposit) calm your conscious center heart, mind etc... down.
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> The madman, if in the hands of enlightened people, can achieve  =

> enlightenment faster than your so-called sane people. In the East ther=
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> has been a longstanding tradition=E2=80=A6 in this century one man rev=
ived it  =

> again =E2=80=93 his name was Meher Baba. He went all over India seekin=
g and  =

> searching for mad people. In all the madhouses, anywhere that he heard=
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> there was a madman, he would go. He traveled all over India his whole =
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> life, searching for mad people.
>
> His disciples asked him, =E2=80=9CWhy are you wasting your time with m=
ad people  =

> when sane people are available to work upon, and they want your time?=E2=
=80=9D
>
> Meher Baba said, =E2=80=9CYou don=E2=80=99t understand. To bring a san=
e person out of  =

> his sanity is very difficult. But to bring out a madman is very easy  =

> because in a way he is already out, but from the back door. He has  =

> tasted something of the outside; we have only to show him the right do=
or  =

> and say, =E2=80=9CPlease don=E2=80=99t go out from the wrong door, go =
from the right  =

> door. Being out is perfectly right, but choose the right door.=E2=80=9D=
 And  =

> Meher Baba turned many mad people into enlightened people.
>
> It is a strange world. Here, really great things are never rewarded.  =

> Nobody has bothered about Meher Baba. Mother Teresa will get a Nobel  =

> prize because she looks after poor orphan children, and nobody thought=
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> of giving a Nobel prize to Meher Baba who really did a miraculous job =
=E2=80=93  =

> and he was the only man, after centuries.
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> Osho, From Personality to Individuality, Ch 7, Q 1

### - that's actually very interesting information, and is a subject i  =

tried to debate previously with someone here called 'One' who didn't see=
m  =

to want to accept the possibility that so-called 'Mad' people might  =

automatically be closer to an enlightened state than average people are =
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because average people have farther to travel...

can't say i like osho all that much as am adverse to 'cults' of any  =

description - personality cults or otherwise - nevertheless i do like th=
e  =

way he puts it re 'mad' people being already halfway out and/or have  =

gotten out by a back door; that 'out' is where you've got to get to (whi=
ch  =

also implies that being an 'outsider' IS to be enlightened thang; to hav=
e  =

reached an enlightened state)

the only condition/requirement being that it shouldn't be deranged; thus=
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to basically go back and exit through the correct door...

something Meher Baba apparently specialised in practicing, cool :)