Europe flirts with a continent-wide war
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy may believe he has reason for = satisfaction at the drone attack he carried out deep inside on airfields= = in the Russian Federation=E2=80=99s European part. The sophistication of= the = attack betrays the involvement of another country in its planning, and t= he = information is that it is Britain. Tactically, the attack was brilliant = = and flawless. https://sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/europe-flirts-with-a-continent-wi= de-war The Russians were caught by surprise, even as they made the inexcusable = = error of exposing long distance strategic bombers in the open rather tha= n = in well covered and protected locations. The Russian aircraft were in th= e = open possibly because of the New START Treaty of 2010 between Russia and= = the US, according to which such bombers have to be in the open for = verification purposes. Zelenskyy may have torn up the New Start Treaty b= y = such a breach of faith. Such bombers were not needed for an attack on = Ukraine, a country which borders the Russian Federation. They were meant for targets much farther away, including Britain and = France. Once again, Ukraine has been used as a sacrificial pawn to serve= = the military interests of the major European powers in NATO. As for the = = country that Zelenskyy rules much after his legal term in office is over= , = it has provided ample justification for a substantial Russian riposte. Vladmir Putin has been caught flat footed, and in the labyrinthine, = ruthless world of Russian power politics, any impression of weakness may= = turn out to be terminal. As for Putin, he appears to have considerably = mellowed from what he had earlier been, when he ensured the separation o= f = the Russian-speaking parts of Georgia and later, Ukraine. He appears to = be = in thrall to a cautious Kremlin bureaucracy, holding back his possible = punches at displays of NATO, sorry Ukrainian, audacity. In these days of= = advanced drones and missiles, was destroying some manned aircraft that = were close to obsolescence worth it for Ukraine? Was the media publicity= = and deserved adulation at his attack worth the risk for Ukraine? It was = = not, but the former comedian has remained committed to the script handed= = over to him by his NATO paymasters, just as he has been during his caree= r = as a superstar in comedy. From making audiences weep with laughter throu= gh = comedy acts, Zelenskyy is now acting out a tragedy for the Ukrainian = people, not to mention the Russian population, by his relentless = prosecution of a war that he cannot reasonably expect to win. Meanwhile, Starmer, Macron, Merz and Von der Leyen may luxuriate in the = = belief that the Russian bear has been weakened, which indeed it has. The= = difficulty is that directing through their proxy Zelenskyy the attack on= = Russian airfields may have resulted in a Pearl Harbour moment for the = master of the Kremlin. Just as the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour in = 1941 made US entry into World War II, the attack and destruction of = several Russian bombers may have made a disproportionate response from = Russia inevitable. And no longer just in Ukraine but inside a NATO count= ry = as well. Not Poland anymore, now that a Conservative has been elected = President, who is likely to join hands with Orban in Hungary to press fo= r = an exit from the Ukraine war, but more likely one of the Baltic states, = = that have emerged as much a champion of the war as the Starmer-MacronMer= z = trio. Indeed, the group of 9 Nordic countries has called for the immedia= te = entry of Ukraine into NATO. Even though they may believe the Russian bear under Putin has been tamed= , = and war between Russia and NATO is therefore impossible, it may be = possible that Putin will firm up his stance, given the multiple = provocations flung in his direction by the alliance. It has been pointed= = out several times by this columnist that had the USSR had the spirit to = = attack Taliban bases in Pakistan, the war in Afghanistan would not have = = proved the disaster it became for the Soviets. Should a high-performance= = Russian missile land in a Baltic country (according to the media narrati= ve = but not official comment immediately put out by the Kremlin, = =E2=80=9Caccidentally=E2=80=9D), it would be the moment of truth for the= pro-war group = within NATO, excluding the US now that Trump is the President. Would = Starmer, Macron and Merz declare war on Russia in the textbook manner = prescribed for NATO? What would voters in the UK, France and Germany think of such a complete= = change in the circumstances of war and make their respective countries = direct participants in the war that has been ongoing since 2022? NATO ha= s = never fought a war in Europe, and has had a less than stellar record in = = the wars it has been engaged in Asia and Africa. Article 5 of NATO has = been torn to shreds since President Trump indicated that the US was not = = willing to join in a war with Russia over Ukraine, a country which was = once part of the USSR to no apparent detriment to the European countries= = in NATO. Russian strategists know that the destruction of much of its long-range = = bombers by an attack scripted elsewhere than in Ukraine is a Pearl Harbo= ur = moment for Putin. If he were to give a less than wholly disproportionate= = response to the attack, it would be a matter of time before he is edged = = out of the Kremlin. Voters have no use for Putin Noveau, they want Putin= = to remain what he was until recently. Both the people of Ukraine and = Russia want an end to the war. The only way to end it may be to call wha= t = several in Russia believe to be the bluff of NATO, that even the = =E2=80=9CCoalition of the Willing=E2=80=9D in Ukraine is ready for a kin= etic war against = the Russian Federation. Pearl Harbour was a tactical victory for Japan but a strategic disaster = = for wartime Japan. In much the same way, the brilliant and successful = attack on Russian air bases deep inside the European part of Russia may = = turn out to be so for the Ukrainians, now facing a disproportionate atta= ck = from Russia, and perhaps not just them. ### - was looking around for something that expressed my own concerns bu= t = not finding anything that wasn't heavily laced/spun with propaganda from= = both nato and ukraine, and then came across the above in an indian = outlet... and because it looks like the uk 'has' now kinda declared war on russia?= = we were only loudly complaining before while helping from behind the = scenes, but this mass attack was clearly successful only with nato = assistance, russia placed in the position of having to do something abou= t = it: their 'pearl-harbor' moment then as this above article suggests - = something that changes the whole scope and range of the war; the proxies= = behind ukraine becoming less proxy and more open with a 40-billion+ blow= = to russia's long range bombers; aircraft designed for a different theate= r = of war altogether, it being difficult to see/imagine russia not doing = something more severe now as a warning to nato to back-off? something obviously discussed with trump, making him comment that the = expected retaliation "wont be pretty" - it being unlikely they'd use = nukes, even tiny ones, but a rap on nato's knuckles is now due and russi= a = isn't fucking about - they're gonna SAY something! not in words... and that's scary!