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Lil dwarf Rudey wrote:
> K Wills wrote:

https://www.geocities.ws/defenderiam/
  Greetings!

If you're reading this, it is probably because you are either
searching for truth concerning the legitimacy of Bob Larson
Ministries (and the "deliverance ministry" in general), or
perhaps you hold a strong opinion one way or the other
concerning Rev. Larson�s ministry.  Whatever the case,
Welcome!

The following essay represents my personal opinions in
defense of Bob Larson Ministries.  I am NOT affiliated
with Bob Larson Ministries.  Additionally, I do not know
Bob Larson personally, although I have attended his
conference and  witnessed his speaking and deliverance
personally.

I chose to create this page in hopes of offering some sort
of defense from the many websites that now attack Bob
Larson and his ministry.  In particular, the parody site
operated by one Ken Smith of Colorado called the �Bob
Larson Fan Club�.  This site is somewhat unavoidable for
those seeking BLM�s (Bob Larson Ministries) real
homepage by way of a search engine.

It is because of my fear that fellow Christians may stumble across this 
(or some similar) website and come to think of the deliverance ministry 
as �fake�, I have decided that it is worthwhile to make a few points 
and present them here

This page is intentionally short and right to the point.  I don't have 
the time or the resources to create an exhaustive presentation.  If you 
are not satisfied by my writings and would like to further discuss the 
matter, feel free to email me.

So, right to it then:

So, why do I not find what Ken Smith has to say very compelling?

Well, in the first place:

To my knowledge, Ken Smith does not know Bob Larson personally. Yet, 
somehow he manages to tell us the many, VERY personal, very immoral, 
things that Rev. Larson supposedly spends his time doing in the privacy 
of his home or hotel room.  I would argue that these accusations of 
personal misconduct, even if they were true, shouldn�t be possible for 
Ken Smith (or anyone) to know any more than it should be possible for 
this writer to tell you, the reader, what you had for dinner last night. 
  These allegations of Bob taking part in things like child molestation, 
satanism, and adultery are clearly fabricated for the purpose of slander.

Additionally, from what I can gather on his website, Ken Smith does not 
work in law or law enforcement.  He does not work for the IRS nor is he 
a Christian or minister of any persuasion (in fact, he is a deist).  Yet 
he manages to carelessly hurl a number of serious legal and ethical 
accusations at B.L.M.--everything from illegal personal conduct, to 
federal tax fraud, to Bob Larson�s supposed crimes against the church. 
(Which is just a bizarre thing for someone who is not a Christian to 
propose in and of it�s self really.)

Nevertheless, something should be said in the way of a defense.

So, Why is Bob Larson not defending himself from these allegations?

Well, I think I can understand why he doesn�t bother to respond to 
people like Ken Smith.  Remember, Smith�s allegations aren�t coming 
from a police officer, IRS auditor, legal prosecutor, etc.  My guess is 
that Bob Larson has better things to do than publicly refute fanatical 
accusations coming from some random critic who�s website has all the 
compelling rationale of an Alice Cooper concert!

A side note before I get to some points: I must immediately suggest that 
Mr. Smith appears to be a deeply disturbed individual.  By this, I do 
not mean that he is a man who is under some evil or demonic influence 
necessarily.  What I am saying is that any person that takes time to 
read over his very morbid website, which includes little side jokes such 
as �How to cook Bob Larson� and papers which he proposes are Rev. 
Larson�s actual handwritten tax forms and personal diary, need not 
rule out the prospect that this man suffers from possible mental health 
issues to the likes of schizophrenia.  In fact, as of when this essay 
was written, Mr. Smith�s website offered �witches�, 
�atheists�, and I suppose any other Larson haters personal 
directions to Rev. Larson�s Colorado home!  If Bob Larson really is 
taking legal action towards Mr. Smith as Smith's website suggest, then I 
hope, for Rev. Larson�s sake, a restraining order is in the works!

So, what of the allegations?

I�m not going to touch on everything that Ken Smith has written, just 
the things that I feel are worthy of discussion.

Concerning BLM finances:  Perpetual going out of business sale?

As far as I can tell, BLM does set goals and then push hard to get 
support. For example, a recent BLM email I received urgently pressed for 
financial support to build up more ministry teams.  So, Yes, they are 
urgently asking for financial support, not at the threat of the 
ministry�s going under so much as the threat of not being able to 
obtain the goals they�ve set.  This is ethically consistent with any 
well-run organization.

Concerning Bob Larson�s pay:  Ken Smith says Bob Larson is too wealthy.

Right away I�ll say that I have no idea how much money Bob Larson 
makes. Frankly, It doesn�t even matter to me what his salary is as 
long as his ministry is really helping people (and it is).  I suggest 
that Bob Larson could (and should) be fairly well-off considering he has 
written so many books which have sold so well.  But still, I don�t 
know Rev. Larson�s salary and I would suggest that neither does Ken Smith.

But doesn�t Ken Smith have tax forms that show Larson�s outrageous 
annual salary, and other forms that hint of tax fraud?

Does it not seem strange that on his website, Mr. Smith just happens to 
have a copy of Bob Larson�s handwritten tax forms?  I think this is 
truly laughable.  I mean, does he really expect us to believe that Bob 
Larson scribbles up his own taxes with an ink pen, and then 
irresponsibly makes numerous copies of these personal forms, which 
somehow find their way in the hands of critics like Smith?  C�mon! 
This is obviously a fake, fabricated by Ken Smith.

In fact, If you just take the time to look at the scanned images of all 
of the �evidence� on Smith�s website, you immediately realize how 
all the forms, documents, and letters have sort of a �Hollywood� 
fabricated look to them.  Many look like they were keyed up on some 
early 20th century typewriter while they all have the look of �top 
secret� documents in a James Bond film.

To anyone who is honestly concerned with BLM�s finances: let�s not 
forget that we can rest assured. If Bob Larson, or anyone else here in 
the United States violates tax laws or steals from not-for-profit 
organizations then we have this amazing super power called the IRS. 
They put people who do these types of things in jail.

Did Bob Larson really write the book �Dead Air�?

Ken Smith says that a certain disgruntled former employee of Larson�s 
actually wrote this popular Larson novel.

Well consider the following:

I think the old adage �You write what you know� is helpful here. 
Although I haven�t read this book, I did find a helpful review on 
Amazon.com.  Apparently the plot of this novel concerns a radio talk 
show host who helps a teen-age, female caller that is suffering from 
satanic abuse.  Remind you of anybody?  This is obviously Larson�s idea.

Besides, Bob Larson himself admits that he received some help on this 
novel but the plot and story ideas were his.  I see no reason to doubt 
him considering he has written well over twenty other books.

Ken Smith says Bob Larson is an adulterer because he was divorced and 
re-married.

I think this is a fairly ridiculous accusation really. Bob Larson is not 
perfect and ministers aren�t supposed to be perfect.  There�s 
nothing to refute here at all really. Apparently, Bob was divorced and 
remarried.  Is this a sin? Maybe.  Does this mean Bob is not fit to be a 
minister today?  No. (See Romans 7:15 quote below)

Ken Smith says Bob Larson had a sexual affair and therefore shouldn�t 
be in the ministry.

I don�t see any reason to believe this at all really.  Ken Smith gives 
us a couple of reasons to think that Bob is a womanizer/adulterer and I 
don�t find them compelling.

The first reason is that Ken Smith supposedly has read of infidelity in 
Larson�s own personal diary (which Smith apparently has in his 
possession).

Why Ken Smith has Bob Larson�s diary in the first place is a great 
mystery to be explained in it�s self.  It�s absurd really.  But 
let�s give Smith the benefit of the doubt to make a point.  If he does 
have Larson�s diary, that means we ARE necessarily expected to believe 
that Bob Larson:
A. Keeps a diary in the first place, which in all honesty in not 
something that many men do.
B. Writes incriminating information in this diary.
C. Throws it in the trash the night that Ken Smith goes �dumpster 
diving�--rather than burning it of course.

Ken Smith is obviously making this stuff up.

The second reason is because Smith tells us that specific former 
employees have legal confidentiality agreements with BLM and this 
somehow proves that Larson is out to cover up his promiscuous tracks.

My question is, how do we know that these confidentiality agreements 
(assuming they really exist in the first place) have ANYTHING to do with 
sex or anything personal for that matter.  These agreements may be 
concerning how the ministry was run or any number of things. And because 
Bob Larson is something of a public figure, perhaps it is just 
commonplace for everyone he works with to sign a confidentiality agreement.

Consider this: As a teenager, I worked in a fast food restaurant. While 
I was employed there I was given a memo that said in the event of a 
public incident (theft, fire, etc) I was REQUIRED not to talk with any 
person in the media or otherwise about the incident.
Bob Larson may have similar agreements in place with his help.

I think it�s obvious that Smith is just looking for any angle to 
accuse Bob Larson.

Finally. I have a few suggestions for someone who would critique a 
minister that had committed some type sexual sin, (Though I see no 
reason to think Bob Larson has).

Just because a minister sins:
1. It doesn�t mean that this person is currently living that 
lifestyle, and
2. I don�t think it necesarily means he is unfit to be a minister. For 
example, DURING his ministry Paul wrote:
I don�t understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is 
right, but I don�t do it. Instead, I do the very thing that I hate. 
Romans 7:15

This shows that even ministers aren�t perfect

Ken Smith and other critics say that exorcisms are fake.

There is so much to say about this topic that I would have to write an 
entirely new essay to address everything.

Let me just say that exorcisms are Biblical and if you are a Christian 
that rejects the idea of demons, you are obviously picking and choosing 
what you want to believe.

To those who proclaim that deliverance and exorcism are not real, I 
challenge you to prove it.  It's not enough to just say "that must be fake".

The way I see it, if the exorcisms performed by Bob Larson are fake, 
then there are only two possibilities:

1.  Bob Larson is staging his exorcisms with actors.

2.  There is some psychological reason why people "act out" as if demons 
are talking out of them.

The problem with the theory that these exorcisms are staged is that Bob 
Larson has performed (atleast) hundreds of public exorcisms.  What a 
ridiculous scheme it would be to hire hundreds of actors to fake such a 
thing!  Many of them would be coming forward to tell all and cash in by 
exposing such a scheme to the network tv media!  Yet no one has done 
such a thing.

The problem with declaring exorcisms to be purely psychological 
manifestations is that you have to explain why in the world someone 
would "pretend" or act out as if there is a demon inside them.  You have 
to describe what anthropological or psychological need would cause not 
just one person, but thousands of people to speak in bizzare voices and 
scream and yell at the specific mention of the name of Jesus.  I don't 
see any other explanation except that it is real.

Let me finish by saying that I believe that Bob Larson is a legitimate 
minister.

Is he a bit eccentric? Most definitely. Bob Larson is not your average 
minister, but he is helping people overcome demonic strongholds in their 
life.

I would urge you to go to one of Bob Larson's conferences and see for 
yourself that deliverance is real.

If you are questioning the reality of God, demons, and exorcisms, I 
would suggest that you to pray and ask for guidance and understanding. 
Also, open up your Bible and read!



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