Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [APC-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] APC/PHP Lazy Loading

Johannes Schlüter wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 18:27 +0100, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
>> I must admit that I think it would be bad to delay 5.3 more and have
>> another beta because of this,
>
> Well, according to Dmitry (didn't test it myself) this doesn't bring
> real improvements so I don't think it's needed.

I want to emphasize that this does provide real performance increases, it's just going to depend heavily on the code structure.  Some projects may see gains, others may not.  Per my original post I'm interested in getting more testing done on various projects to see how general the gains are and what I can do to improve them.

To also re-iterate my previous emails I do agree that this probably isn't the best time to include this in 5.3, but would of course work to help get it in if the majority wanted to see that happen.  Considering the merge errors that Dmitry found I think it would be preferred to get this tested more before it's included in a major release, as I had originally intended.  I appreciate the code changes Dmitry has contributed and his initial testing.


>>   however if possible I would be all for
>> having APC in RC1 next week :)
>
> This was asked on IRC multiple times and always said something along the
> lines "talk to the current APC maintainers and if they think it's worth
> propose to internals" as the current APC maintainers can judge stability
> and risks better and have a better knowledge about missing 5.3 support.
> But nobody seemed t be that interested.
>
> By looking at the bug tracker I see 63 open APC bugs including missing
> support for 5.3 features (http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=15901) and
> some crashes from that I think APC benefits from an independent release
> schedule. Additionally APC doesn't offer core functionality and will
> need configuration to be useful (temp path, shm method, segment
> sizes, ...) so I don't think the additional installation step is that
> much of additional trouble.
>

I'm trying to get the majority of the APC bugs resolved, but I think this will take some time.  There's also some new and undocumented functionality added to APC as well as some major changes I plan to create in an APC-4.0 branch.  So I don't think this would be the best time to integrate it into core, especially considering the late notice.


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