Re: [DOC-LICENSE] PHP Manual Attribution under CC BY 3.0

[email protected] (Daniel Brown) Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:54:45 -0400
Newsgroups php.doc.license
Message-ID <CAD9cneMBPerfAePwXCj732h=8N9rk_F-8VR2x3srpDJo8UpAmQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:08 AM, hakre <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Copyright holders of the PHP Manual,
>
> Circa a month ago I tried to get an answer to the question who/how the au=
thors of the PHP Manual want to be attributed under CC BY 3.0:
>
>> How does the author or licensor specify the manner to attribute the work=
 as per CC BY 3.0?
>
> I now ask again in the hope to get an answer as I do not see this has bee=
n sufficient answered so far.

    It was 30 August, 2013, and I was the one who answered you.  The
answer to the question you asked was direct and sufficient, and the
questions you have below are different --- and the tone set by the
context is rather abrasive, I might add.

> To prevent any misunderstandings, I'd like to start repeating what the sh=
ort form of CC BY 3.0 regarding attribution states so to make the context o=
f my questions clear:
>
>> Attribution =97 You must attribute the work in the manner specified by t=
he author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse y=
ou or your use of the work).

    Correct.  Exactly as I told you here:
http://news.php.net/php.doc.license/362

> You could help me a lot by answering the following three, simple question=
s:
>
> 1.) Please tell me who the author or licensor is.

    As it says everywhere in the manual, the PHP Documentation Group.
This is a collective of several individual volunteers, and not a
single body or entity.  In addition to that, the "Group" actually
evolves regularly, with some folks joining and others leaving.  As
such, the PHP Documentation Group is more of a general title for those
who produce and maintain the documentation, with no ownership of any
of it belonging to one author or grantor of license.

> 2.) Please tell me whether a) the author alone or b) the licensor alone o=
r c) both author and licensor together do specify the manner of attribution=
.

    It is as described in the license.  There is no further need for
permission, nor any directive of attribution.  Essentially, you do as
you see fit, provided it at no time violates the license, and that it
in no way implies you are the owner of the property, in any way,
shape, or form, and that we neither endorse nor are affiliated with
your use of our works.

> 3.) Please tell me where that manner of attribution is specified.

    See my response to the previous question.

> I hope these three simple questions are not too much, let me know if you'=
ve got questions back.
>
> Please let me also know if you can not answer any of these three simple q=
uestions or if you need some more time with this.

    Yeah, no.... I think we're okay, thanks.

--=20
</Daniel P. Brown>
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