Re: [PHP-EVANGELISM] Bad rep?

Hi Lothar,

* Lothar Scholz wrote:
> I haven't seen anyone getting more then 80 Euro/hour for a Java job.
> Perhaps this is possible if you work for an old and famous consulting
> company, where the client is paying to much for the name only.

I'm working at my own company, rent-a-phpwizard resp.
ThinkPHP (the latter has the better branding).

> But 120 Euro/hour seems to be strange for me and its far beyond

120,-- EUR is the price a friend company of mine is
charging for, 95,-- EUR is our standard price for premium
software development with PHP.

But to get back to the topic: Rasmus is right when saying
that one shouldn't get tricked by the marketing experts
of other big companies. PHP has its advantages in some areas,
including web development, where - in many or most cases - there's
no need for an application server because the task can be done
otherwise. A solution with PHP can be typically done in less
time than in other languages where complexity was added by
language level, application servers or hardware.

From a marketing POV it could be wise to be able to state
"We have application servers", but most customers I have
seen (and luckily I had to do with the technical IT decisioners
of them) know that there's no need for an app server since
PHP itself is already fast enough. Most problems in PHP
scripts are not typically the PHP code itself[1], but interacting
with third party tools, i.e. slow database queries, slow XML
responses from Siebel platforms you are interfacing with etc.

[1]: of course there's always room of improving your scripts,
I don't want to exclude myself from that.

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