Re: PHP on .NET DLR
[email protected] (Rasmus Lerdorf) Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:59:23 -0700
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PHP has historically never chased fads. We wait and see which platforms win, and we end up on those simply because we need PHP on those platforms. When/if Silverlight becomes a viable platform for real large-scale deployment, PHP will be on it. Many PHP sites are small, but most strive to be the next Yahoo/Facebook/Technorati/Vonage etc. and at this point I see no sign of any of these major players doing anything at all with Silverlight. M$ has a major hurdle on their hands. I'm not particularly anti-M$, and I hope they do somehow come up with a way to make it easy to deploy, manage and monitor in a cost-effective way a colo full of machines that can run a Silverlight application that takes a billion hits a day. Most contributors to the PHP project work on realworld applications. We are a very pragmatic bunch. We build what we need. We don't build what we think people might need in 3 years if the stars align correctly. This approach has worked extremely well for 12 years now. Right now nobody working on PHP needs Silverlight, nor has there been a significant level of interest in it from PHP users. Perhaps we all have our heads in the sand and Silverlight will stomp all over everything else. Frankly I am seeing more interest in Adobe Air from where I sit here in Silicon Valley working for the highest-trafficed web site in the world. Yet we still deploy more freebsd/linux servers with Apache and PHP than anything else and that won't change for years to come. -Rasmus K T Ligesh wrote: > Hi, > > So that's it? 'Nobody cares' (tm)? 'You can switch to Ruby if you want to, and nobody's stopping you'? Or am I on the wrong list? > > Does the PHP community have any interest in PHP on DLR? IronRuby is going to be hosted on RubyForge, so it is going to be a community effort ultimately, and that's one of the things that attracted MS. In contrast, the PHP community is SO hostile to DLR that they are ignoring a fully finished implementation--phalanger? > > To be frank, with Silverlight, I don't think anyone has a choice now. The hype is too much, and the number of hits that ironRuby gives on Google is staggering, especially considering its nascent pre-alpha state. So PHP will be one of those things that didn't adapt to the changes and then loses the war. > > There's lot to be learned from history--VHS vs betamax or Redhat vs Caldera. Mindshare is the key. You lose that, and then there wont' be anything for anyone to monetize. > > Thanks for listening. > >