Re: [PHP-ES] Re: Consulta
[email protected] (Mauricio Tapia) Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:32:05 -0300
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--000000000000a40e0c062c6581c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Buenas tardes como todo orden de cosas habra quienes usan PHP puro otros usaran alg=C3=BAn frameworks, algunos usaran IA otros no, algunos su propio= css, yo a=C3=BAn con Bootstrap...para gustos los colores, cada herramienta nos facilita la vida y durante estos =C3=BAltimos a=C3=B1os lo =C3=BAnico que e= xtra=C3=B1o es a esto... Un lugar m=C3=A1s humano. El jue., 23 de enero de 2025 4:38 p. m., Mario Lacunza <[email protected]> escribi=C3=B3: > En serio crees eso? Debes salir de la mina =F0=9F=A4=A3 > > Mario Lacunza > > Consultor IT > > > > +51941141554 <+5191141554> > [email protected] > https://lacunza.biz/ > Lima - Per=C3=BA > > > > [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/mlacunza> > [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza/> > > > El El jue, 23 ene. 2025 a la(s) 13:29, Narcis Garcia < > [email protected]> escribi=C3=B3: > >> M=C3=A1s adelante descubrir=C3=A1s quien trabaja para qui=C3=A9n. >> >> Durante la expansi=C3=B3n de la telefon=C3=ADa m=C3=B3vil en la d=C3=A9c= ada de 1990, hab=C3=ADa >> una disyuntiva parecida; se dec=C3=ADa mucho que los celulares nos iban = a >> hacer la vida m=C3=A1s sencilla, con m=C3=A1s tiempo libre para las pers= onas, y >> que adaptarse te acercaba a la cima (como el =C2=ABm=C3=A1s dinero para = m=C3=AD=C2=BB). >> >> A todas las personas nos sucede al descubrir una sequoia gigante, que >> por un momento podemos dejar de ver el bosque. >> >> >> El 23/1/25 a les 18:51, Mario Lacunza ha escrit: >> > Por lo q escribes entiendo q no sabes bien c=C3=B3mo funcionan las >> > herramientas q mencion=C3=A9... mientras construir un website usando I= A es >> > ahora muy f=C3=A1cil a=C3=BAn no te sirve para todo y hay cosas que to= dav=C3=ADa se >> > necesita de un humano para resolverlo. >> > >> > En vez de usar estas listas (q a=C3=B1os atr=C3=A1s eran de gran utili= dad) ahora >> > solo me basta hacer la misma pregunta a los chatbots y me la resuelven >> > en segundos, aqu=C3=AD tendr=C3=ADa q esperar horas y algunas veces d= =C3=ADas. Es >> > cuesti=C3=B3n de efectividad. >> > >> > Y yo en vez de jugar al minero como mal sugieres, me dedico a dirigir >> > los chats bots q hagan mucho m=C3=A1s r=C3=A1pido el trabajo que anta= =C3=B1o hac=C3=ADan >> los >> > devs juniors o seniors y esto tambi=C3=A9n me permite trabajar en m=C3= =A1s >> > proyectos en paralelo lo cual redunda en mas dinero para m=C3=AD. >> > >> > Solo es cuesti=C3=B3n de adaptarse. >> > >> > P.D: Copio este mensaje de nuevo a la lista, ya q al parecer mantiene >> el >> > antiguo error de solo responder al remitente y no a toda la lista. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > MarioLacunza >> > >> > Consultor IT >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > +51941141554 <tel:+5191141554> >> > >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > https://lacunza.biz/ <https://lacunza.biz/> >> > >> > Lima - Per=C3=BA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > twitter <https://twitter.com/mlacunza> >> > linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza/> >> > >> > >> > >> > El jue, 23 ene 2025 a la(s) 7:46=E2=80=AFa.m., Narcis Garcia >> > ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>) escribi=C3=B3= : >> > >> > Se pueden confundir deseos con realidad. >> > Con el panorama que describes, de hecho, no tendr=C3=ADa sentido a= cudir >> al >> > ChatGPT o Claude porque la IA ya se ocupa de tu trabajo sin >> protestar y >> > uno mejor se emplea en algo m=C3=A1s manual como seleccionar piedr= as en >> > una mina. >> > >> > >> > El 23/1/25 a les 12:10, Mario Lacunza ha escrit: >> > > Hola, >> > > >> > > WOW despu=C3=A9s de tantos A=C3=91OS sin mensajes en listas, = =C3=A9sta revivi=C3=B3. >> > > >> > > Es un bonito intento PERO hoy en d=C3=ADa puedes usar chat gpt = o >> > Claude para >> > > resolver cualquier duda sobre cualquier lenguaje de programaci= =C3=B3n >> en >> > > segundos. S=C3=B3lo ponle a la IA tu pregunta y copia tu c=C3= =B3digo y >> > listo en >> > > segundos obtienes las versi=C3=B3n corregida. >> > > >> > > Hay IA como bolt que crean websites COMPLETOS con un buen promp= t. >> > > >> > > Tenemos que adaptarnos o... >> > > >> > > La era de escribir todo el c=C3=B3digo a mano ya paso. Se los = dice >> > alguien q >> > > comenz=C3=B3 a programar a finales de los 80s =F0=9F=98=B1=F0= =9F=99=88 >> > > >> > > Saludos! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > MarioLacunza >> > > >> > > Consultor IT >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > +51941141554 <tel:+5191141554> >> > > >> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > >> > > https://lacunza.biz/ <https://lacunza.biz/> < >> https://lacunza.biz/ >> > <https://lacunza.biz/>> >> > > >> > > Lima - Per=C3=BA >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > twitter <https://twitter.com/mlacunza >> > <https://twitter.com/mlacunza>> >> > > linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza/ >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza/>> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > El El jue, 23 ene. 2025 a la(s) 04:39, Narcis Garcia >> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> escribi=C3=B3: >> > > >> > > +1 >> > > Con todo lo que menciona Pablo. >> > > >> > > >> > > El 22/1/25 a les 19:51, Pablo Siciliano ha escrit: >> > > > Hola Roberto, >> > > > >> > > > Todo es cuestion de que volvamos a usar este soporte par= a >> > plantear >> > > > dudas, consultas ... Compartir cosas relacionadas con la >> > actividad >> > > > profesional. >> > > > >> > > > Francamente la actividad relacionada a las redes sociale= s >> que >> > > reemplazo >> > > > este tipo de foros me parece en una crisis total por su >> > falta de >> > > > profundidad, tal vez sea el momento de volver por estos >> > lugares >> > > > >> > > > Slds. >> > > > Pablo Siciliano. >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 6:11=E2=80=AFAM Roberto Barreiro >> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]= m >> > >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Est=C3=A1s y otras listas como PHP.es, php.cast y ot= ras >> > est=C3=A1n muertas >> > > > desde hace m=C3=A1s de 10 a=C3=B1os ... Y es una pen= a, ya que >> > hab=C3=ADa grandes >> > > > profesionales y se aprend=C3=ADa much=C3=ADsimo. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > El vie, 17 ene 2025, 18:30, Alma Guevara Castro >> > > > <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > escribi=C3=B3: >> > > > >> > > > Buenas tardes, estimados, >> > > > Les extiendo un cordial saludo a la vez de un >> deseo de >> > > =C3=A9xitos en >> > > > sus funciones diarias. >> > > > Les escribo para conocer si pueden orientarme en >> lo >> > > siguiente: >> > > > - Me gustar=C3=ADa brindar capacitaci=C3=B3n sob= re PHP >> usando el >> > > material >> > > > que ofrecen en el portal PHP.net. >> > > > - Intent=C3=A9 suscribirme al correo de licencia= s, >> pero no >> > > pude. Me >> > > > refiero al correo [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>>>. >> > > > Quedo a la espeta de su amable comentario. >> > > > Saludos cordiales. >> > > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > Narcis Garcia >> > > >> > > __________ >> > > I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses >> > aren't >> > > masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive >> > administrator >> > > should remove and omit any @, dot and mailto combinations >> against >> > > automated addresses collectors. >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Narcis Garcia >> > >> >> -- >> >> Narcis Garcia >> >> __________ >> I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't >> masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator >> should remove and omit any @, dot and mailto combinations against >> automated addresses collectors. >> > --000000000000a40e0c062c6581c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Buenas tardes como todo orden de cosas = habra quienes usan PHP puro otros usaran alg=C3=BAn frameworks, algunos usa= ran IA otros no, algunos su propio css, yo a=C3=BAn con Bootstrap...para gu= stos los colores, cada herramienta nos facilita la vida y durante estos =C3= =BAltimos a=C3=B1os lo =C3=BAnico que extra=C3=B1o es a esto... Un lugar m= =C3=A1s humano.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">El jue., 23 de enero de 2025 4:38 p.=C2=A0m., Mario La= cunza <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no= referrer">[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p= adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">En serio crees eso? 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=3D"font-family:Arial"><a href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza= /" color=3D"#6A78D1" style=3D"display:inline-block;padding:0px;font-family:= Arial;background-color:rgb(106,120,209)" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targ= et=3D"_blank"><img src=3D"https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-sig= nature-generator/icons/linkedin-icon-2x.png" alt=3D"linkedin" color=3D"#6A7= 8D1" style=3D"max-width:135px;display:block;font-family:Arial;background-co= lor:rgb(106,120,209)" height=3D"24"></a></td><td width=3D"5" style=3D"font-= family:Arial"><br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td>= </tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><= br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai= l_attr">El El jue, 23 ene. 2025 a la(s) 13:29, Narcis Garcia <<a href=3D= "mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bla= nk">[email protected]</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo= rder-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">= M=C3=A1s adelante descubrir=C3=A1s quien trabaja para qui=C3=A9n.<br> <br> Durante la expansi=C3=B3n de la telefon=C3=ADa m=C3=B3vil en la d=C3=A9cada= de 1990, hab=C3=ADa <br> una disyuntiva parecida; se dec=C3=ADa mucho que los celulares nos iban a <= br> hacer la vida m=C3=A1s sencilla, con m=C3=A1s tiempo libre para las persona= s, y <br> que adaptarse te acercaba a la cima (como el =C2=ABm=C3=A1s dinero para m= =C3=AD=C2=BB).<br> <br> A todas las personas nos sucede al descubrir una sequoia gigante, que <br> por un momento podemos dejar de ver el bosque.<br> <br> <br> El 23/1/25 a les 18:51, Mario Lacunza ha escrit:<br> > Por lo q escribes entiendo q no sabes bien c=C3=B3mo funcionan las <br= > > herramientas q mencion=C3=A9... mientras construir un website usando I= A es <br> > ahora muy f=C3=A1cil a=C3=BAn no te sirve para todo y hay cosas que to= dav=C3=ADa se <br> > necesita de un humano para resolverlo.<br> > <br> > En vez de usar estas listas (q a=C3=B1os atr=C3=A1s eran de gran utili= dad) ahora <br> > solo me basta hacer la misma pregunta a los chatbots y me la resuelven= <br> > en segundos, aqu=C3=AD tendr=C3=ADa q esperar horas y algunas veces d= =C3=ADas. Es <br> > cuesti=C3=B3n de efectividad.<br> > <br> > Y yo en vez de jugar al minero como mal sugieres, me dedico a dirigir = <br> > los chats bots q hagan mucho m=C3=A1s r=C3=A1pido el trabajo que anta= =C3=B1o hac=C3=ADan los <br> > devs juniors o seniors y esto tambi=C3=A9n me permite trabajar en m=C3= =A1s <br> > proyectos en paralelo lo cual redunda en mas dinero para m=C3=AD.<br> > <br> > Solo es cuesti=C3=B3n de adaptarse.<br> > <br> > P.D: Copio este mensaje de nuevo a la lista, ya q al parecer mantiene = el <br> > antiguo error de solo responder al remitente y no a toda la lista.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> > <br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0MarioLacunza<br> > <br> > Consultor IT<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+51941141554 <tel:+5191141554><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D= "noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> <mailto= :<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://lacunza.biz/" rel=3D"nore= ferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lacunza.biz/</a> &l= t;<a href=3D"https://lacunza.biz/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">https://lacunza.biz/</a>><br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lima - Per=C3=BA<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> > twitter <<a href=3D"https://twitter.com/mlacunza" rel=3D"noreferrer= noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://twitter.com/mlacunza</a>&= gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0linkedin <<a href=3D"https://www.linkedin= .com/in/mario-lacunza/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"= _blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-lacunza/</a>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > El jue, 23 ene 2025 a la(s) 7:46=E2=80=AFa.m., Narcis Garcia <br> > (<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre= r" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">n= [email protected]</a>>) escribi=C3=B3:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Se pueden confundir deseos con realidad.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Con el panorama que describes, de hecho, no tendr= =C3=ADa sentido acudir al<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ChatGPT o Claude porque la IA ya se ocupa de tu tra= bajo sin protestar y<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0uno mejor se emplea en algo m=C3=A1s manual como se= leccionar piedras en<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0una mina.<br> > <br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0El 23/1/25 a les 12:10, Mario Lacunza ha escrit:<br= > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Hola,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > WOW despu=C3=A9s de tantos A=C3=91OS sin mens= ajes en listas, =C3=A9sta revivi=C3=B3.<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Es un bonito intento PERO hoy en d=C3=ADa pue= des usar chat gpt o<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Claude para<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > resolver cualquier duda sobre cualquier lengu= aje de programaci=C3=B3n en<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > segundos. 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