Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

At 3:35 PM +0100 4/22/08, Stut wrote:
>Tony Marston wrote:
>>No I'm not.
>
>Shocking and unexpected opinion from the developer of a framework. NOT!
>
>Anyway, I can see this falling into another lengthy discussion so 
>I'll get my contribution in early to avoid disappointment.
>
>As others have mentioned this question is plagued by semantic 
>arguments. To me a framework is as much about the way requests are 
>routed and handled as it is about utility code.
>
>I don't use what I would call a framework, but I do have a 
>well-established file layout for my sites and an extensive library 
>of code that covers everything I need to do regularly. If I have an 
>itch it doesn't scratch I'll write it in a reusable way. The file 
>layout and code library has definitely been put through it's paces 
>and is currently in use on a 1.4m+ UUpM (~18m PVpM) site and several 
>smaller properties so I know it works securely, reliably and it 
>scales.
>
>I don't use third-party code libraries unless there's no other way 
>of doing it or time constraints are in play. Maybe it's due to past 
>experiences or maybe it's just the way I am, but I don't like using 
>code written by people I don't know and trust unless I can spend 
>time picking it apart, and generally I found it's quicker to start 
>again.
>
>It's also worth noting the shocking quality of some open source 
>projects. It may work but do you know how secure and stable it is?
>
>I've been forced to use a couple of "frameworks" in the past and the 
>main thing that struck me is that they work far too hard in the name 
>of being able to satisfy a wide variety of needs. This not only 
>over-complicates the code but can also be a massive drain on runtime 
>resources. I understand why they're like this but it's yet another 
>reason I stick to my own collection.
>
>Anyways, back to work.
>
>-Stut

Well put.

Not speaking for you, but if we had listened to the "there's only one 
way to do it" types, we wouldn't have PC's on our desks but rather 
terminals.

As they say in PERL, there's always more than one way to do it.

Cheers,

tedd

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