Re: [PHP] PHP Manual problems

Lester Caine wrote:
> James McLean wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:39:03 +0100, [email protected] (Jochem Maas) wrote:
>>>> as for using IE6 ... WTF ... you do realise this is essentially a web developers mailing list right?
>>> The interesting things in my websites go on behind-the-scenes, in the PHP, and produce
>>> relatively straightforward HTML. I have avoided the well-known bugs in IE6, and think my
>>> webpages display correctly on any of the modern browsers, but as Microsoft delights in
>>> rearranging everything in every update, and making the features you need ever harder to
>>> find, I stick to IE6 for my everyday work.
>> Wow. Ignoring the issue that IE6 will soon be EOL (finally), and
>> ignoring how bad it is at handling anything even remotely modern, your
>> workstation must be a haven for virii, spyware and malware... IE6 has
>> just about the worst security track record out there, at least on the
>> desktop anyway.
>>
>> If you must have IE6 for whatever reason, stick it on Windows
>> installed on a VM and upgrade your main workstation browser to
>> something more recent. At least a VM can be backed up at a known-good
>> point and if^H^Hwhen it gets compromised it can be deleted easily and
>> replaced with your backup.
>>
>> I'll make it easy for you: http://www.getfirefox.com :)
> 
> Since a large section of our USER base is still tied to W2k and does not have 
> access to install other software, the call for IE6 to die is STILL somewhat 
> premature!
> What is needed is someone to kick M$ to sort the mess out by at least allowing 
> IE8 to install on W2k machines, rather than telling hundreds of councils they 
> have to replace ALL their computers :(
> 
> The alternative is to convince M$ controlled councils that Firefox is OK and 
> that using it will not invalidate their contracts - but then all the work 
> currently being done to convert legacy setups to work with *IE7* would have to 
> be scrapped and reworked on Firefox. Many of my customers have only just got 
> funds to start an *IE7* roll out! Redoing all that work for IE8 is yet another 
> problem for which money is not available.

Microsoft WANTS them to spend money upgrading... that's the point of 
questionable feature enhancement and the breaking of file formats so 
that older software can't read it properly. If the councils really want 
to save money they'd move to Linux. As for "all the work being done to 
convert legacy setups to work with IE7"... this is the WRONG 
philosophy... it should be "all the work being done to convert legacy 
systems to work with Standards" with a little bit of "with IE7 
compatibility layer on top". The target is standards, that way in the 
future they aren't locked in still.

Cheers,
Rob.
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