Re: [PHP] Re: UK Project Opportunity

Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:02:09PM +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> 
>> Manuel Lemos wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>>>> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
>>>>  in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
>>>> take over the project and "own" it. Remote contract work w/ occasional
>>>> meetings on site.
>>> You may want to try searching PHP professionals with the specific skills
>>> you need here:
>>>
>>> http://www.phpclasses.org/professionals/country/uk/
>>>
>>> Or you may want to try to post a job here:
>>>
>>> http://www.phpclasses.org/jobs/
>>>
>> Manuel,
>>
>> I'm sure there are some very talented people on your site (and in the
>> community) - one slight problem though, I won't use you're website under
>> any circumstance (been there, done that).
>>
>> You make every interaction with your site a horrible, painful
>> interaction that is purely there to get as many adverts as you can in
>> front of people, so that you can bleed every cent possible from the hard
>> work and effort of PHP developers and innocent users. In short, you take
>> advantage of your users, members and the PHP community - I've never seen
>> such a bold and ongoing attempt to profit on the hard work and good will
>> of PHP developers, ever, period.
> 
> I've given Manuel a hard time in the past about his site design. But
> we'll see what his new design is, when it shows up.
> 
> As for Manuel profiting from the whole thing, I don't see another
> busines model working. Source Forge has a similar business model. And
> nearly every other Linux publication "profits" from the work of FOSS
> developers. The only other popular business model on the FOSS world is a
> support-based model, which works for companies with a single product or
> a small stable of products. It wouldn't work for phpclasses.org.
> 
> Having to register to download classes from phpclasses.org is a
> nuisance. Manuel says this is up to the individual developer. This may
> be technically true, but Manuel *offers* this as an option. Contrast
> Source Forge, which performs a similar function but does not require any
> registration to download anything. I imagine that the registration
> allows Manuel to tightly monitor site usage in a variety of ways.
> 
> But I don't know of another, better, resource for PHP code written by
> random developers anywhere. I'm willing to give his site a plug when
> someone can't find a class they need. If I had worthy classes, I'd
> upload them there myself. I can't really blame Manuel for promoting the
> site. It's his job.
> 
> As for the jobs and other aspects of the site, I can't say. I don't use
> them.
> 
> Paul
> 

I won't write a lengthy post, but I'll second some of what Paul has
said.  phpclasses has been around for a while and has provided a
collection of quite a few very nice classes before there was really any
PHP framework to speak of.  Manuel has authored most of them and many
other people have their own nice collection there. I haven't ever used
one of the classes, but I have downloaded several in the past that
performed functions that I wasn't very familiar with and used them as a
learning guide and inspiration for my own code.

I don't have a problem with the profits.  People submit their code
because they want to, and well, ads are part of most sites now days, sf
included.

The only slightly negative thing that I can say is that I have never
seen a post by Manuel on this list actually contributing a solution,
recommendation or any type of help other than a link to phpclasses.

-- 
Thanks!
-Shawn
http://www.spidean.com