Re: [PHP] PHP vs JAVA

> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/18/heres-what-you-find-when-you-scan-the-entire-internet-in-an-hour/


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Sebastian Krebs <[email protected]>wrote:

> 2013/8/20 Steven Staples <[email protected]>
>
> > > My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to
> support
> > > which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java
> can
> > > be used server-side.
> > >
> > > I also realize that Java is used for native Android because I also
> teach
> > > Mobile Application Development (MAD -- I even coined the name). So, I
> am
> > up
> > > to my butt in languages (and people who think different than me) -- I'm
> > > just trying to get documentation to back up my what I think I know.
> >
> > Well, technically any language can be used server side, it is all on how
> > you
> > set up your server, no?
> >
>
> No. But since node.js I lack an example :D But of course you need the
> "link" between the language and the network.
>
>
> >
> > I would tend to think that the biggest out there, is
> html/php/javascript...
> > and next to that, would be asp, and then java.   Do I have proof of this?
> > No, can I get proof, I doubt it, and are there stats on this? To be
> honest,
> > in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".  It
> is
> > virtually an immeasurable object.  There are so many websites out there,
> > that you can't search them all...
> >
>
> Of course you cannot search them _all_, but again the link:
> http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
> There are good hints, how "the internet looks like". For example a hoster
> can simply look at the products he sell. Services like w3techs.com use the
> reports from the server themself (in most cases the headers), or the
> file-ending (doesn't work anymore that good, since most sites hide them ;))
> and extrapolate this.
> Of course they are not exact, but I think they show the direction quite
> accurate.
>
>
> >
> > PHP is simple, and yet powerful to use, and is pretty much the standard
> for
> > all hosting companies.
> >
> > Now, there is this link...
> > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
> >
> > It shows Java as #1, and php as #5, but this is also for PROGRAMMING,
> does
> > not specify web based programming vs desktop vs MAD (thanks tedd ;) ) so
> > the
> > numbers do not really speak out in this application.
> >
>
> Also it is the Tiobe-Index. Although it is widely-referenced, the way it
> calculates their rankings is ... interesting. In fact it only tells you how
> "loud" a community around a specific language is. So for example maybe Java
> is #1, because it is so complex, that it leads to many questions in forums
> and on stackoverflow. Or PHP is "only" #5, because most communication is on
> IRC, or mailinglists. (disclaimer: Of course I faked this examples.
> Actually I have no idea how the communities around Java and PHP "as a
> whole" interacts primary, but I don't think, that they are all equal).
> I just think, that the Tiobe-Index has a completely different view on "what
> is a popular language", than I have.
>
>
> >
> > Does it really matter?   PHP is very huge, widely used, and I would even
> go
> > so far as to say the 'norm' for website developers, and hosting
> providers.
> >
>
> Nope, it doesn't matter :)
>
>
> >
> > But that is my $0.02, and for me, I have been with PHP for 7 years
> > professionally, and in college I took VB.net, ASP.net, C++, JAVA and PHP.
> > Only recently have I gotten into C# for desktop applications.
> >
> >
> >
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