Re: [PHP-GTK] Status of PHP-GTK

> 1. IRC without logs is pretty useless to the outside world. I do
> acknowledge and appreciate the quick help though. Could someone easily
> provide IRC logs on the web? Wasn't there a bot regular on the channel?
> It could also track the channel topic now that we can set it again.

There's a bot in the channel, everything is logged, however there are
privacy concerns with making those logs available publicly.  Someone
going through and manually compiling a faq from answered questions would
be nice.  I don't have the time to do it - are you volunteering?

> 2. The mailing list should definitely be informed of any planned changes
> or discovered solutions IMHO. It is the usual place for anyone to start
> looking. If 1. was implemented, a link to the IRC log date or topic
> start would be a good start.

Again, this takes time and energy - are you volunteering?

> 3. Updating the manual is hard to get started with. Someone with
> experience could regularly add notes and hints with the conclusions of
> current ML threads.

Again - this takes someone actually doing the work. You volunteering?

> 4. Making docs comments work seems to be non-trivial, I would dump them
> in favor of 3.
> 
> Concerning the state of the manual: What would it take to fix the build
> system? It worked at one time, but all I hear is that it needs to be
> updated to DocBook V5. Whoever broke it should just fix the damn thing
> so the old DocBook V3 sources can still be maintained. After all, it is
> in a VCS where one can go back in time, right? I don't see a realistic
> chance that anybody will step up and rewrite the whole manual just for
> fun. Besides, there is still the problem with OOP support in DocBook I
> presume?

Actually the docbook 5 stuff and php.net have implemented some pretty
nice OOP stuff - read the php manual lately?

As for who broke it - I'm not entirely sure.  The issue isn't the code,
it's the server.  Docs will build manually on a local system.  They
don't build on the site.  Something to with system administrators and
their need to upgrade things was my last understanding of why the builds
are broken.  I'm not a sysadmin, nor do I have any desire to be one or
chase developers until I find one who has root...

Steph - do you even know what box gtk.php.net is sitting on at the
moment? There was a bunch of php website reshuffling....

> I know I'm only saying what "should be done". If there was an easy way,
> I'd gladly help with the documentation. Until then, I'll just try to
> post whatever problems (and solutions) I come across to the ML and other
> public places. Unfortunately I don't have the time to work on the big
> problems, so this is my way to contribute.
> 
> All developers, keep up the nice work even if it's in the shadows to the
> common subscriber :-)

> Regards, Andre

Thanks,
Elizabeth